Eric Barber — Transforming Health with the Barbaric Challenge

Cathy Meehan: Hello and welcome to the Meehan Mission podcast. So, this is a special episode for me because many of you know the past year and a half since Jimmy passed, I have been so stressed out. I knew I needed to do something and take charge of my own health. So, I went online and found a fitness trainer and I completed a 90-day challenge and it literally changed my life. So, I wanted to bring on Eric Barber. He’s the founder of Barbaric Training, and he takes his 30 plus years as an athlete, gym owner, and personal fitness trainer and creates programs to help people like me. So, I wanted to share that with our community in case you or somebody you know is ready to take the health into their own hands this year. So if you need help, this podcast is for you.

Welcome to the Meehan Mission where you know we like to challenge the conventional ways. We like to focus on optimal ways of health and we also like to introduce our audience to movers and shakers out there to help them. So today I am joined by Eric Barber and Eric is the creator of Barbaric Training. So I want to be upfront with everybody. I actually found Eric online because I was going through my own little health journey. After Jim passed, I was highly stressed out. I had really stopped motivating my own health journey and I knew that I needed somebody to help and guide me. So I found an online trainer. I mean, like, I didn’t even know they existed. So, I actually just completed his barbaric challenge. It was a 90-day challenge, and I am telling you guys, it transformed my life, my health, my weight. It was such a phenomenal experience for me that I’m going to keep doing it. And I really wanted to share my journey and share Eric with everybody because guess what? It’s 2026. Everybody’s talking about New Year’s resolutions. What are we gonna do? And I had a very wise person tell me, it was my son James, that if you’re going to make a new habit, you need three things. You need a goal, you need a guide, and you also need to never quit. So, I’m bringing Eric on for those people who need a guide because I he just might be the right person for you. So, Eric, will you please introduce yourself to our listeners? Tell us a little bit about you and how it came about to create barbaric training.

Eric Barber: Sure, I’d be happy to. I got my personal training career started in 1989, back before personal training was really even a thing. I think it was 1990, word started really spreading within the gyms that personal training could be another source of income. And I got to be on the ground floor of all of that. I remember back then we just kind of didn’t know what we were doing, but we were just led by passion. I had an absolute passion to help people. I had come out of a very skinny, awkward background, getting booted up a lot and basically found the gym and started putting on some muscle and getting confident, that kind of thing. So, trained all through the coached people all through the 90s. I did a couple of bodybuilding shows just for fun to get that experience. And then, did that all the way through 2005, 2006, came across CrossFit and I was one of the, well, I was the first CrossFit gym in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And after those, did that till 2017, moved to Colorado Springs and opened up another CrossFit gym in Colorado Springs and did that for two and a half years, I think. And then COVID hit and yeah, so I’ve been doing this for quite a while now.

I went through a divorce and kind of lost my way a little bit, tried to do some other things, but God just kind of led me back into personal training. About two years ago, one of my clients was like, “Eric, why aren’t you coaching people online?” And I was like, “I don’t even know what that means.” You know? So I looked into it and the client was telling me, “Hey, you know, you essentially are growing your net over a pond. Why not throw it over the ocean?” And I was like, “Well, that might be a really cool way for me to be able to take everything that I’ve learned and help more people with it.” So, the last two years have been all about learning how to project myself out there on social media, which I’m not that great at just yet, but it’s been a journey. So, I think in total 35, 36 years of personal training. The last two of which have been online only.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Well, it sounds like you’re kind of like the innovator, mover, and shaker. You started being a fitness trainer before it was even real and then now you found the opportunity to go online, which I’m assuming, you know, a lot of people went online for COVID, but then you even went beyond that. And he’s right, there is a multitude of people out there who really are searching for guidance or a trainer. They don’t know where to start. There’s so many things online nowadays. What should a person be looking for if they want to get started and there’s all of this information online and also kind of like what’s real that’s online because you see all of these ads popping up for personal trainers.

Eric Barber: So great question. I think that if a person has zero experience in the gym, literally walk into the gym and everything looks like a torture chamber, right? Then at that point, I think that they should get a personal trainer, somebody who will meet them at the gym two or three times a week and teach them how to exercise. Most people, however, have spent some periods of their life in the gym, and that’s why I do the online coaching. Now, I don’t need to spend hours and hours on the workout floor anymore teaching people how to do a leg extension or a lat pull down, right? Most people know how to do that kind of thing. So, I created the Barbaric Challenge, which is a 12-week body transformation program, which kind of answers your question. I feel like the biggest thing that people are dealing with in their 40s, 50s, 60s, even 70s is they feel like our best years are behind. And having gone through the divorce and going through what I went through, I kind of thought my life was over. But I’ve refound my physique and made some changes and I feel like I’m living my best life now. And I’m 56.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Well, what’s crazy is the transformation that I really experienced was, you know, I really dialed into my nutrition, which you helped—you developed a nutrition plan. I was already eating pretty healthy, but really the stuff that I eliminated—I mean, I’m probably not going to go back to the way I ate before, which was already pretty healthy. But just the energy and the transformation that that created, it’s like I it’s changed my life moving forward. So, you’re right. Some of these people that just need to get back into the gym, even if it’s been years since they’ve done anything. So, that was—and one of the greatest pieces of advice you gave me was to go join a gym. Change my surroundings and get around other people, which kind of talks about community and just finding like-minded people that you can talk with. Even like we did weekly calls. I mean, those types of things really help motivate people.

Eric Barber: Yeah. I think when I was young, I thought that training was king and nutrition was queen. But now that I’m in my 40s, 50s, 60s, I’m realizing nutrition is really where it’s at. It’s the other 23 hours of the day. You know, the training part, that one hour of the day, that’s very, very important. But I would put that in the queen position rather than king. And when you’re young and your body is bulletproof, you know, it doesn’t really matter what you eat. I mean, it does, but we can get by with a lot in our 20s and even in our 30s. And then we wake up in our 40s going, “What the heck happened to my body? Everything hurts, you know. Things aren’t working the way that they used to. Old injuries pop up from sports that we did in our teens and 20s, you know.”

I train almost as hard as I did in my 20s and 30s. But the switch for me has been training much smarter. Everything I do now, instead of it being harder, I just take a smarter approach. And by doing so, I don’t have any injuries anymore, which is unbelievable. It’s really cool when you switch your nutrition over to a more anti-inflammatory approach, you know.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that was key for me. That makes a huge difference in how you get up in the morning, how you move about your day, how you go through your workouts, how you rest at night.

Eric Barber: Yeah, that was totally key for me. Well, and you talk about working smarter, not necessarily harder. And especially I think in our age population which is the 50s and I’m not 60 yet. And I kind of noticed that when I’m at the gym I see some of these people that—I mean they make noises when they’re working out and I’m like and then sometimes I feel like well hopefully I’m still getting fit and I’m still doing everything. So what is that mindset that you want people to learn and really like along with the discipline and motivation? I mean how do you encourage that with the clients that you work with?

Eric Barber: When it comes to discipline and motivation I cannot imagine doing that or helping someone with that or even doing that for myself without goal setting. So, one of the secrets for me is sitting down with a cup of coffee, turning off the phone, right? And getting quiet and if you’re a believer, you ask for help on this, right? But at least sit down with yourself and start asking yourself hard questions. Am I truly happy where I’m at right now? Now, most adults are pretty happy with their life, right? They’ve worked hard. They’re not having to work as much. They’ve got some money, that kind of thing. But there’s those still those things in their life that they feel like they either cannot change or don’t know how to change. And that’s where powerful goal setting comes in. I think that’s been one of my secrets for 30 plus years.

Cathy Meehan: Okay. Right. Go ahead. Well, I was going to say I definitely see that a lot of people, you know, they are successful when it comes to things and money and relationships, but they are lacking in the world of health and energy because it’s like they always put that to the side. And you know, it’s kind of like I liken it to like modern mainstream medicine. You know, you can take a pill which is going to get you through the day and it’s going to maintain your life, but it’s not going to do anything for the quality of your life, which is when I added back in a really defined focus on nutrition and going to the gym and doing the workouts. That really changed my energy level and it’s going to change—yes it’s going to extend my lifespan but it’s also it’s changing the quality of my life and I that’s just one of those things that you can’t bottle it up in a pill and take that from a doctor you actually have to put some work into it yeah which you know really what I found great was the discipline was that you know you start kind of like baby steps and so that you develop the habits and then you start seeing results and then it almost kind of like snowballs into a maintainable lifestyle that you want to keep, right? So, you know, that was really that discipline up front was really important, I think. I know it was for me and I would think that’s kind of a key factor in a lot of your clients that you got to have that discipline up front and a lot of us don’t want to have discipline but we need that discipline.

Eric Barber: Yeah. Exactly. And it’s built into us where we feel better after hard work. So the problem is when you’re sitting on the couch and eating ice cream and watching TV, everything is easy. Everything is geared towards making life easier. I kind of take a different approach. I enjoy workouts still to this day. I’ve been working out myself for over 40 years. I never get bored of it. I never get tired. Never. Doesn’t mean I don’t always walk into the gym and want to do the workout. But once I start moving, it’s just built into us that a little bit of hard work makes you feel good. It’s no different than if a woman has a potential—had some landscaping, right—that she wants to do outside of her home and she finally gets around to it some sunny Sunday afternoon and creates a beautiful garden or a beautiful chunk of landscape, you just feel good, right? You’ve been putting it off forever, but then once you do it, you feel great.

I remember the Lord of the Rings, right? That’s a big read. When you say I want to read The Lord of the Rings, that’s three books and they’re volumes and you have to commit, right? When you look at that, you’re like, “Oh man, I’d love to read that.” But it’s not ever going to happen if you look at it all at once, right? But if you start the process and just give into it, you’re like, “This is what I’m doing now.” And then this whole new life opens up to you and you feel so good reading it. Does that make any sense? Health and fitness is the same way. If you look at, “Oh man, I’d really like to lose a 100 pounds now.” But then you think about it, you’re just like, “how am I gonna…” When you look at the whole thing, it’s too much.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Like, where do I start?

Eric Barber: But if you start, if you make some simple goals, start the process, and enjoy it along the way. The weight will have to come off. The discipline and consistency.

Cathy Meehan: Yes. I mean it’s like all those things. We have a saying in our family: “bring your body and your mind will follow.” So just get out there, take that step, just start doing it. And those are kind of some of the things. What are some things—let’s say we’ve got people that are thinking about, “Maybe I do need to work out,” or “I haven’t worked out in a really long time.” How—what is that first step for somebody? I mean, do they—I say you make a goal and you find a guide, right? Those kinds of things. But, are there like baby steps that you can take even if it’s at home? Like for me, I always take the steps when I go to work. It was very tiring the first couple of times that I did it, but I just keep doing it and that is kind of part of that discipline thing. But what are some things that people just need to put their mind to it and just start doing?

Eric Barber: Loaded question. If you’re just wanting to just generally be a little bit fitter, you can do things like what you’re talking about. You park further away from the grocery store so that you have to walk a longer distance, you know? You choose the stairs instead of the escalator. Little things like that. Absolutely. You can always just start walking, add more steps to your day, that kind of thing.

But if you’re truly wanting to make a true change in your life, that’s where it goes back to the goal setting. Now, at that point, you have tons of options, right? If you are unmotivated then you start reading books and things that will motivate you. Start watching videos, right? Follow some Instagram profiles and get motivation from that, right? Or if you don’t know what you’re doing, you go to the gym and you hire a trainer. They’ll teach you how to exercise, how to work out. If you have a huge goal and you have a gym to train at, you don’t need to be shown how to exercise, but you need somebody to walk you through that. That’s kind of what I do. I help people from a distance reach their goals. So, lot of different ways I can answer that question.

The Instagram influencer thing, you kind of got to be a little bit careful. There’s a lot all over my feed. There’s thousands and thousands of influencers out there and what I try to look for is their content. So, if they’re just showcasing their 20-some year old body and telling everybody that they can eat like crap and still look like that, I just immediately dismiss it. I don’t even take that serious. What I look for is their content. What are they actually saying? I look at their education and their experience.

If you have somebody super educated—they’ve got a degree in exercise physiology, whatever—but they have no experience coaching somebody. I could probably learn some things from that person, but that’s not who I would be looking for. I’ve met coaches that have a ton of experience like me. They’ve been coaching people for decades, but they never took the time to get certified. They never took courses. They never did ongoing education. So, I try to look for a balance of education and experience.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Well, talking about you see these really young like 20-some influencers—you’re right. I ate Snickers and Doritos when I was in my 20s and I do not eat Snickers and Doritos now. I just—you know my metabolism is completely different. When you are working with clients what is something that’s very important as we age? I hear you want to do high-intensity interval training and then I hear no you want to work on muscle strength. What is your take on our aging population—those of us basically in our 40s and 50s and early 60s? What do we need to be focusing on when we’re actually training, trying to lose weight, increase our energy, and what do we need as older adults?

Eric Barber: Another great but loaded question. Is there truth to training heavy? Yes. Is there truth to going lightweight with more reps? Absolutely. Is there truth to circuit training? Yes. Is there truth to functional exercise versus isolation or compound movements? Yeah, absolutely. So, there’s truths to all different kinds of training, but as we get older, I try to do a combination of light weights and heavier weights. And the way I encourage my clients to do it is light warm-up sets and just progressively heavier each set until you get a heavy weight on the bar that you can do maybe eight times with good form. I feel like that stimulates, it warms the muscle up, it warms the joints up, and it allows you to get up to what you would consider a heavy weight for you where you’re at right now. Now, that weight for eight reps is going to look a lot different for me than it would be for a beginning client, right? And that’s fine. Just go by what your body is telling you. So, there’s so many different ways to answer that question, but I would say for somebody 40s, 50s, 60s wondering where to start: you cannot go wrong with the basics. There’s a lot of stuff coming out there on social media—try this, try that. It’s just you can’t go wrong with the basics, you know.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. I have a problem with the people that are saying you can have this beautiful body and everything and then they are eating donuts. To me the whole journey especially with the nutrition was—I don’t see where donuts are good for anyone. Those seem like gimmicks to me when people are saying, “Yeah, well, you can be on this exercise program and eat all the doughnuts that you want two times a week or something like that.” It’s very gimmicky and I think that’s something that people really need to watch out for, especially with social media out there and the way the algorithms are going into your feeds. I just appreciate when people really look at you as an individual and help determine—that’s why you need a guide, somebody that’s going to help you along your own personal journey because it’s different for everyone.

Through your years of experience what’s something that really should have never been a fitness trend?

Eric Barber: I think a lot of people have capitalized on things to make money. That goes all the way from ridiculous things that you can buy online, right?

Cathy Meehan: I remember back in the old days of the ThighMaster.

Eric Barber: Suzanne Summers and the ThighMaster. Yeah. You look at a lot of these things and it was all about money. And then that total body system which ends up being just a big thing that sits in people’s houses and it ends up being a coat hanger or something.

I’m always going to go back to the basics even with nutrition. I think that we can’t go wrong with healthy whole foods. People always ask me about supplements and it’s like, well, supplements are great if your nutrition is dialed in. Tell me what your nutrition looks like throughout the day. We need to start right there before you even think about supplements. So, like even on the Barbaric Challenge, I don’t recommend my clients do any supplements. I try to get them off the very unhealthy chemically foods and get them eating more of a whole-food-based diet first. Lean them out, put a bunch of muscle on them in that 90 days and then after that we start talking about supplements and that kind of thing.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Why put somebody on a whole bunch of different kinds of supplements when they need to clean up their nutrition first, get some whole foods in them? My grocery shopping is completely different now. Everything in my pantry, it’s so different now. And you used to eat healthy before the barbaric challenge.

Cathy Meehan: But now it’s just a different kind of healthy and more fine-tuned. The things that I cut out—processed food. I don’t do any processed food anymore. I think that was really—I was eating healthy processed food if you want to call it that. But I eliminated that and went to whole foods. And when people are purchasing whole foods they need to definitely go organic if you can, obviously, and if you can get locally grown farmers’ markets—fruits and vegetables that are actually grown in the ground and not in factories. But it’s really a learning process the whole way through and it’s kind of addictive because the more energy you get then the more you’re like, “Oh it was because of this and so now I need to do this.”

Eric Barber: It is addictive when you’re back to working out again and you’re eating healthy and you go throughout your day and you just feel awesome. When you’re young, you take that for granted, but when you get older and you know what feeling horrible feels like, to get working out again and eating clean—you’re like, “I feel awesome.” That to me is priceless. And that’s where I’ve been trying to live my whole life. Knowing what it feels like. So if I ever do get off track from life circumstances, I don’t freak out about it. I allow myself to go through whatever I need to go through to get through that situation. Knowing that I’m looking forward to life calming down and then I get back onto my nutrition and workouts.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. So there’s a big push for like home gyms and people to work out of their home which I think is great if you don’t live close to a gym. And what I wanted to talk about is you as an online trainer—you will work with a person based on what they have accessible, right? So if it’s like a home gym then you can help work with their own home equipment. I have a small home gym, but like I say, it’s kind of like a dirty basement that Rocky Balboa would have trained out of. And it was much better for me to actually join a gym. And plus, if you have that luxury of getting the saunas—because now that’s another thing I added. It’s like this domino thing that once you start going down that road of exercise and wellness you can just start adding these things on just to help better your own health.

Eric Barber: When I sold my CrossFit gym in 2019, all I really wanted to do was build my own gym. Because I know what to do with a barbell and some dumbbells and some kettlebells and a bench and a pull-up bar. But when I started getting back into personal training, I started getting back into the commercial gyms and I kind of started falling back in love with those again. I was like, “Wow, this is great to have so much equipment available.” So now when I work with my clients—because I don’t coach CrossFit anymore—I recommend they get a membership to a local commercial gym that they like. I do have a client right now who is going through a horrible divorce and she can’t even go into a commercial gym right now. I said, “No problem. What are you comfortable with?” And she said she’s comfortable with her apartment complex gym and the things she has at home. I said, “Excellent. Let’s start there.”

So the home gym is great for people who know how to work out and they’re also self-motivated. Most people though aren’t like that because they need community. They need more energy and more equipment that a commercial gym can offer.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. I remember when you and I first started talking, you said, “Hey, I’ve got this home equipment available to me.” And we took a look at that and you asked my thoughts on getting back into a commercial gym. I felt like that was a better option. And now, we’ve created this thing in you to where you’re just loving being back in the gym again. But, if the home gym is where a person is at, then it’s definitely doable. But I don’t recommend that over a commercial gym. Not every commercial gym is good. I’ve been trying to find a gym home in Charlotte, North Carolina and the last three gyms I’ve been training at, I don’t like them. There’s a goofy vibe or they don’t take care of their equipment. Maybe their bathrooms are filthy. Sometimes the people in there are rude. If you have an option of a gym that’s one mile away that you hate versus a gym that’s five miles away that you love, I would say go to that one. Because once you start working out and you start high-fiving people when you see them at the gym, you feel like you have a second home, you know?

Cathy Meehan: Right. In today’s world there are a lot of commercial gyms and there’s also a range of fees—from low like $10 a month to places that are $300 or $500 a month. I drive 40 minutes to get to my gym and it’s worth it. It’s now my second home. It’s not something that I would change. As we age we really need to build muscle and it helps with our metabolism. On a call with a person, do you work with them like somebody’s like, “I want to build muscle and look like this,” or “I just want to be physically fit?”

Eric Barber: I don’t train people for something like a bodybuilding competition or CrossFit competitions. That’s specialized training. I train people more for generalized health, which is more important if you ask me. If I were to get back into bodybuilding, I would hire a coach who specializes in that. A regular personal trainer isn’t going to help me get there. So, what I do, most people come to me because they want to lose fat and put on muscle. We’re learning now that as we get older, being strong and having muscle is one of the biggest things that will help us. Most people deal with being overweight, so I take this healthy, whole-food, natural approach to it. I help them to lean out and through my workout program, they do put on some muscle and get stronger. I’d say about 75% of people come to me for that. About 25% come to me because they just want to be fit again and not hurt. It’s more for fitness or health than appearance.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. I have also noticed cognitively that I don’t have as much brain fog as I used to have. I’m assuming that’s a combination of increased circulation, building muscle, losing fat, and the difference in nutrition. I just cannot recommend enough to people that if they’ve even thought about maybe getting back in the gym, then they need to do it. This is your sign to find a guide and never quit.

Eric Barber: I’ve been working out myself for 41 years now. When I meet people that don’t work out at all, I just don’t understand that. It’s like one hour a day, really. Three to five times a week. You’re going to feel like a million bucks if you just reinvest in yourself. It’s no different than brushing your teeth every day. If you work out, your body’s going to take care of you.

Cathy Meehan: One of my hesitancies was the time commitment. I was so busy and overly stressed. I was like, “An hour-long workout? Are you kidding me?” But I was disciplined. You made me be disciplined and I did it and now I don’t miss a day at the gym. It’s probably the best hour of your day. It is the best hour of my day. I liken it to when you get contacts—when you thought you could see, but now you can really see. It’s the same thing with getting back into the gym. I forgot how great it made me feel. And don’t you let me stop.

Eric Barber: Well, I’ve got some questions for you. You went through my 12 weeks. You dropped a lot of body fat—you cut your body fat in half, I believe.

Cathy Meehan: I didn’t know I had it to lose, which is so funny.

Eric Barber: When you got my program, it all hits you all at once—the meal plan and the workout program. Did you feel completely overwhelmed or was it pretty easy?

Cathy Meehan: You know, I didn’t feel overwhelmed at all. I will say the first couple of days in the gym, I had to kind of search out the equipment, but on my app, I could actually go to a video of the equipment and see what it was. Most of the equipment is labeled, so it’s just a matter of learning your way around the gym. That was probably the hardest thing of all. Other than that, I had the meal tracking and I liked keeping notes in a little notebook so I could see what I liked and if I thought I could move up or down in weight.

Eric Barber: A lot of people are worried about how they’re going to feel and being sore and tired. When did you start feeling great?

Cathy Meehan: I never really was so sore that I couldn’t get out of bed. I think it was because I took it easy. I wanted to take it slow so I didn’t injure myself, which you really talked a lot about. So I never really experienced like real shutdown soreness. I would say probably after the second week, that’s when I was like, “Wow, I want to go to the gym today.” Before it was just a process.

Eric Barber: When was the first time you walked by a mirror and did a double-take?

Cathy Meehan: It was probably four weeks in. When I was doing my bicep curls and I could actually see my muscles flexing. I was like, “Dang, I do have muscles underneath those.” Now I’m almost addicted to it. I meet up at the gym with my two daughters and their husbands too. It’s almost like a family affair and I know so many people at the gym now, which really makes that community.

Eric Barber: When did you first start to notice your clothes feeling different?

Cathy Meehan: Oh my gosh. Funny story, half of my pants don’t even fit me anymore. I literally need to go buy jeans because all my jeans are too big. I even had to make another hole in my belt just to keep my pants on.

Eric Barber: What was the one thing you learned throughout the 12 weeks that you didn’t know before?

Cathy Meehan: I think really putting the puzzle piece together of the nutrition and the workouts. I didn’t realize how significant that was. When you were talking to me about nutrition and eliminating things like sugar and grains, I didn’t realize how important that really was. Putting those two together is just a game changer.

Eric Barber: That was the big turnaround for me as I’ve gotten older. I don’t have to train as hard to get lean anymore because now I just manipulate my meals and the weight falls off. I don’t have to hammer that treadmill for hours and hours anymore.

Cathy Meehan: And plus, the importance of adding so much protein. My daughter is a nutritional therapist and she was right behind everything that you had told me about increasing protein. Once you start measuring things out and keeping a food journal, which is what we do in the barbaric challenge, you see what’s good and what’s bad. My challenge is over and I’m still making sure I’m following my nutritional plan and I’m going to keep doing it.

Eric Barber: When I built the barbaric challenge nutrition plan, that was years and years of guinea pigging myself with all the diets—Atkins, Mediterranean, Warrior, Zone, Paleo, Keto, Macro, Whole30, intermittent fasting. I wanted something results-driven, healthy, and easy. I went back to all of the experiences I’ve had and started looking for commonalities. It’s been really good. Feedback is that people don’t want to get off it after their challenge is over. It’s functional and easy. I go over how to order at restaurants and how to travel, whether it be airplanes or road trips.

I think the biggest compliment to me is checking in with a former client a year later and they’re still healthy and gotten their spouse eating healthy. That’s when I know I’m doing my job.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Our food system now, the processed foods and all of the chemicals, we have to be as far away from those as we can be. Nobody is looking out for our health except for ourselves. We have to take our fitness, our food, and our medical care into our own hands. Thank you very much for all that you have done to absolutely change my life.

Eric Barber: You did a great job, Cathy.

Cathy Meehan: Thanks. I did it because you were coaching me. I had accountability. If people want to get in touch with you Eric, how do we reach out?

Eric Barber: My Instagram page is probably the first place to go. Recently, I’ve started loading everything into Facebook too. And then recently I finally got around to making barbarictraining.com a little landing page website. I also created a YouTube channel. Barbaric Training, it’s my name Eric Barber backwards. Spelled B-A-R-B-E-R-I-C.

The name of my 12-week program is the Barbaric Challenge. It is a lean out, put on muscle the healthy way. The concept is to help people realize that the best years of their life are not behind them. All that needs is just some mindset shifts and daily habit shifts. I do progressive workouts, meaning the first month is easy. The meal plan is a whole-food-based, protein-focused plan. And the third tier is the weekly accountability with a 30-minute phone call and unlimited texts 6 days a week.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, you bet, Eric. I appreciate you so much and I’m sure we will still be in touch. For everybody else out there, I hope you enjoyed the Meehan Mission podcast. Remember, it’s 2026. If health and wellness is your goal then make that goal, find a guide, and stick to it. Next time I’ll catch you later. Thanks.

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