Cathy Meehan: Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the Meehan Mission podcast. I’m Cathy Meehan and today’s special guest is Greg Glaser. He is an attorney that lives in California. And as you know, I love to introduce our audience to people that they may know or they may not know to get a little bit of insight in what they are doing in their particular industry. And Greg, I know that you are an advocate for medical freedom when it comes to rights. So can you give our audience a little bit of background on how did you pick of all topics and all areas of law to go into medical freedom?
Greg Glaser: Sure. As a lawyer, I realized very quickly that vaccines was going to be the way that we could lose our constitutional rights. It’s the one invasive procedure that the government forces on others without their consent or coerces upon others as we saw during COVID. So I got in early about 15 years ago in working with the pandemic response project and then became the general counsel for Physicians for Informed Consent where we educate about the risks of vaccines. So yeah, my focus has been the constitutional side—your rights—and what that looks like is day-to-day I help parents and schools navigate the mandatory vaccine law in California which hopefully we’ll be able to overturn soon.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that would be great. You know, we get parents that contact us looking for vaccine exemptions for their children in California, and you know, honestly, we don’t have a lot of good news for them. What is the latest on vaccine exemptions for kids in California? And what type of calls do you get and how are you able to navigate through that and guide them?
Greg Glaser: Sure. Well, there’s a lot of creative solutions. The key thing to remember is you never have to get vaccinated ever. There’s always a way. There’s always a solution. We just have to find it. So, I encourage folks to call me and then we can go into more detail on what that looks like.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I will be sure to include your contact information in the description below because I know that we will be sending people your way when they’re specifically in California and looking for those vaccine exemptions.
Greg Glaser: Yeah. And also, I don’t charge you. It’s a free service and we do it through Physicians for Informed Consent. So you can send them either to me or PIC and our goal is just to help parents. We are there to support and the parents are doing the heavy lifting which is raising unvaccinated children which is amazing. That’s the future. And so we’re happy to step in and do what we can to make sure that your school experience goes well.
Cathy Meehan: Oh absolutely. Well, you know, I want to talk about Physicians for Informed Consent because a lot of people don’t realize that there is this growing group of not only attorneys but also physicians that are really starting to be those critical thinkers that we need and they’re kind of digging into the information and some of that censored data that they can’t find. And with you helping them, are you guys seeing like a big growth in the area of physicians really coming over to our side? I mean, I don’t know if that’s really the term, but how is that going? And not only physicians, but also attorneys.
Greg Glaser: Yeah. Well, you know, I’m really glad that you asked. The attorneys are coming over our side a lot quicker than the doctors. COVID was the sea shift where we just grew exponentially. This is right up our alley. This is what we do day-to-day. We are on the front lines of social media, LinkedIn, X, Facebook, and we’re debating the doctors and the PhDs. We’re on the front lines because a lot of people are kind of afraid of that. They don’t want to debate the doctors; they want to say what they want to say, but they want to say it to the choir. We go right in where the fire is and we debate them on their own turf and that is a service that we offer to the community and we make change there. So folks can follow us at physiciansforinformedconsent.org and follow us on any of the platforms, especially X.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that would be great. You know, specifically, we are constantly interviewing pediatricians to help join our mindset kids programs and we are finding some of them are kind of iffy and they’re still vaccinating. And again, I have to tell everybody I don’t tell you not to vaccinate, but I’m definitely going to point you in the direction of where you can get some more knowledge so that you are going to be able to make your own decision about why you aren’t going to vaccinate. But I think maybe I should start sending some physicians over your direction also so that they can gather some of that information that they haven’t found.
Greg Glaser: Yeah, I would say there are four doctor’s organizations that are really leading the way and we all support and love each other. And we all kind of have our own focus. One of them is MAPS. That’s the pediatric group. They’re amazing, and I’ll be there in September at their conference in Scottsdale. The next one is the Independent Medical Alliance (IMA). They were known as Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance. And so they’re doing great work. They have a journal and they do educational outreach. It’s a great way to bring on doctors. Their thing is treating chronic disease. So they’ve never been more relevant than right now because of what’s happening. And Kennedy’s reports coming out August 12th. It’s a very exciting time. So you got MAPS, IMA, and we just talked about PIC. Our focus is vaccines. If you want to know about the risk of the vaccine versus the risk of the disease, we are your people. We have the data and it’s all in a nice presentation. It’s very shareable. You will never get kicked off of social media for sharing our materials because we cite official sources. That’s our thing. The fourth group I’d mention is the American Academy of Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). Their focus for years, I think since 1943, has been the private practice of medicine. For them it’s just about the independence of the physician and they are huge respectors of informed consent. They got it right on COVID. They knew.
Cathy Meehan: Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. The complete opposite of the AMA which we don’t even want to go there. But talking about the vaccinated versus unvaccinated, I want you to briefly talk about the control group where you were legal counsel back in around 2020 and how did that come about and what were the results that you guys found?
Greg Glaser: Oh yeah, thanks so much for asking. Well, the control group is the vaccinated versus unvaccinated study that we did. What I’d be happy to do is share my screen so that you can see the pilot survey graph that we did. What we did was we compared the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. We did a survey of unvaccinated families—about 1500—which is a huge data set. That’s more than the CDC asks for in many situations and we use the same method. Our statistical confidence was above 99%. What we found was that the unvaccinated are the healthiest people on the planet. They don’t have these diseases that are common in chronic illness. And we tried to use the most vetted government data that we could. That’s the orange side of the graph—the national data, the vaccinated. And the unvaccinated is on the other side. Sometimes we have to stratify among the unvaccinated because some mothers got the vaccine during pregnancy and then didn’t vaccinate their babies because they figured it out, and so those babies look very vaccinated. But when you exclude that subgroup, you find that the unvaccinated have virtually no chronic illnesses and that’s extraordinary. Here we have chronic conditions in adults and it’s the same. There actually are completely unvaccinated adults. There’s not too many of them—we estimate there might be between 250,000 and a million—but from our sample survey, these people don’t have multiple chronic conditions. Less than 1% have had two conditions; only about 5% had one condition. Usually it’s very small, but if you compare the vaccinated group, more than half of them have chronic conditions. It gets wilder—no heart disease among the unvaccinated, but obviously it’s very high in the vaccinated group. Diabetes, we couldn’t find any. Digestive disorders—think about the pain and the suffering of children who can’t eat bread or they have sugar issues. These graphs are not just data; you’re looking at the pain of vaccination. But that pain does not exist in the unvaccinated and we just found it no matter what we looked at. Here’s eczema, and we calculated the exact risk factor for the scientists. This was our case that we brought into federal court. As far as I know, it was the most comprehensive scientific case ever brought into federal court that showed the risk of vaccination. We relied on approximately 5,000 pages of vetted government-based PubMed material and presented it to the court saying a reasonable parent would object to vaccines. We even did a pilot survey that matches the other surveys. Clearly there’s something here to look at. Judge, you got to respect this; you got to say that these parents have a right to opt out. And even if you love vaccines so much that you believe they’re saving lives, you still need a control group of unvaccinated in order to say that vaccines are safe. The judge just didn’t take it. He said no, you can’t sue the government for this, claiming the request was too broad because we wanted the right to opt out for every parent. We were the first on the scene after COVID because we knew the vaccine was coming. If our case had won, we would have been able to prevent all of those mandatory vaccinations. People could have gotten shots if they wanted, but at least you would have been able to go to work and school. There’s a great weight that I feel of not prevailing in that case. I suppose it’s some consolation that we were able to get the judge kicked off the case because he owned pharma stock. We got another judge kicked off at the appellate court for the same reason. Ultimately it went up to the US Supreme Court, and we didn’t get it. We could not persuade four justices to step up and take the case. We don’t know how many supported it because it was a closed-door proceeding. The lesson was that courts are not great places for that type of sweeping relief. They don’t like to issue sweeping orders.
The kind of wins that we’re seeing lately are the religious exemption wins, like the win in Mississippi where parents have the right to a religious exemption because the state already recognizes medical exemptions. It puts the two exemptions on par; that’s called equal protection. If the government wants to offer a secular medical exemption, they have to offer a religious exemption as well. That argument won in Mississippi and it’s continuing to win because of the amazing work by firms like Siri & Glimstad. There’s a campaign called “Free the Five” and it’s like the cavalry arrived to regain our rights to religious exemption in all of the problem states. This means folks can go to school and work again. All of this is coming at the perfect time because Secretary Kennedy is now in power as of February 2025. He has already received the MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) executive order from President Trump. A lot of people think MAHA is just a political movement, but it’s an executive order that says Kennedy’s responsibility is to identify and solve the issues of chronic illness in our country. He issued a report in May and has a follow-up coming August 12th. That is the amazing work that you’re doing, Cathy, sharing how we treat chronic illness.
Cathy Meehan: Right. I believe the future is very bright too. A lot of people are disappointed that the COVID vaccine isn’t completely wiped out yet. My thought process is you can’t just come in and put the hammer down. We’ve seen the data and the dangers, but we’ve got to get into the minds of the people that still have a biased confirmation that these vaccines are preventative medicine. I believe Kennedy is playing a chess game of being transparent and letting all the data—like the control group reports—leak into the brains of the people who are adamant that vaccines saved lives. What’s your thought on that? Because there are people out there hating on Bobby Kennedy for not doing enough.
Greg Glaser: Be patient. Kennedy is navigating a bureaucratic deep state that throws up obstacles all the time. Still, he is able to make more change in six months than we’ve seen from any HHS secretary in history. He has gotten corporate titans to capitulate on removing dyes and he has already completely disbanded the ACIP council, which is a necessary requirement to stop things like the COVID shot. He has to go through procedure; otherwise, he would get tied up in litigation. He is posting win after win on X. He’s creating change that is generational. For example, he teamed up with an organization to deliver dye-free meals to the elderly, like Meals on Wheels. He’s doing God’s work meeting the neediest people. He’s going after fluoride, which the DOJ is fighting him on right now, and even chemtrails. He is a science-dedicated guy. Things are not going to change overnight, but they are changing and I’ve never been more optimistic.
Cathy Meehan: Me too. Ten years ago my husband Jim and I started getting into this, and to see how far we’ve come is tremendous. The more he talks about these things, the more people are finally reading food labels. Start there, and then you realize what they are injecting into children.
Greg Glaser: People have grown up to trust doctors and the government. He’s throwing out these bombshells to get people to start thinking for themselves, which is changing the culture. Imagine a giant ship; when you turn it, it takes a lot, but once it makes that turn, you cannot stop it. Kennedy cleaned out the ACIP commission because of all their conflicts of interest. This is about looking at things with fresh eyes. We will see changes that will be generational so that children will have cleaner air and water. The best work is being done in the private sector by doctors and healers offering solutions. Kennedy will do his part, the private sector will do its part, and together we change the culture for the big win for the children.
Cathy Meehan: Yes. We have to stand up for the kids. Adults got us into this mess and it’s going to take us to get out. I have a lot of hope for the kids. I have grandkids now who are unvaccinated. I’ve got my own little study—we vaccinated our children and had eczema, pneumonia, asthma, and delayed speech. My grandkids are hardly ever sick. I also feel like the censorship has loosened a little bit so mom groups are talking.
Greg Glaser: Mike Benz made it clear that those who polluted our earth are most afraid of free speech and the absence of censorship. They can’t control public momentum. Once public opinion shifts, the leaders follow suit. Ultimately, when we change the culture, the future gets bright. This is our fight, not the children’s fight; they didn’t vote on fluoride. This is our time to make that change. Find an organization doing what you like and get involved—share information and talk to people. This is a grassroots movement and the best work is done by moms and dads talking with friends and family. You are already an advocate; we are all ambassadors for health, freedom, and truth.
Cathy Meehan: So well said. It just takes that little conversation to get started. I always talk about planting seeds. The more seeds you plant, the more confident and courageous you become. No one asked me what I was injecting into my children when I was vaccinating them 20 or 30 years ago.
Greg Glaser: One of the things that motivates me is giving resources to moms so they can speak to other moms. I want to create an environment where the information is not only available but accessible. Oftentimes that begins with a simple question like, “Do you use organic apples when you make an apple pie?” Work with something they are already into. All of these subjects come to the same conclusion: good health. Some people get there through organic food, others by noticing lines in the sky and asking about geoengineering and aluminum. Pretty soon, guess where you are? You’re in the health freedom movement.
Cathy Meehan: COVID brought the vaccine people, the homeschoolers, the attorneys, and the banking people together. It backfired on them.
Greg Glaser: They allied groups that would have never allied pre-COVID. It was a forced error. I’m the general counsel for PIC and we have a coalition with 350 organizations. It’s never been easier because everyone already gets that there is an existential threat. Let’s all join forces. This is about thriving. Our movement changed—we all took an interest in Ivermectin, which was a pharmaceutical, and as it turns out, it helps with other things too.
Cathy Meehan: Those days of COVID, we kept people out of the hospital with Ivermectin and home oxygen. People were sneaking it into hospitals. I don’t think people are going to comply quite like they did in the beginning. This transitions into something fun—people leaving the city for the country to start homesteads. I heard you’re a homesteader too.
Greg Glaser: Yep, organic homesteader. My advice is: keep your day job. It’s dirty, dusty, hard work. Life is abundant, meaning there are always critters that want to eat what you grow. Homesteading is a journey, but it’s worth it. Great resources are Joel Salatin and Will Harris out of Georgia. I had a romantic view I had to lose over time. Ranching advice: never take down a fence until you know why it was put up in the first place. Get clean land with access to water and start with a permaculture model close to your house and build out with what is successful.
Cathy Meehan: I had this flash this morning—the puppy came onto the porch with a baby chick in his mouth. My daughter’s quote is: “If you have livestock, you have dead stock.” It’s a learning curve but I highly recommend getting out of the city and knowing your neighbors.
Greg Glaser: It might be increasingly important. I have a theory I developed after learning about smart cities. I worked for Children’s Health Defense and won a case against the city of Los Angeles where we got a court order saying you do not need a digital ID even in a smart city. A smart city is a marketing pitch; it’s just a phrase for surveillance technology. They are putting cameras and monitoring everywhere, even in the countryside. Street lights today are cameras with listening devices connected to AI for instant 24/7 analysis. I think the future is going to be low-tech parallel economy communities, like HOAs with no towers, no fluoride, and no Wi-Fi—just wired Ethernet. People will pay for that exclusivity and those standards. The wokes have dangerous ideologies and lack moral authority. The parallel economy already has successful micro-communities built around central organic farms, but it requires seed capital.
Cathy Meehan: There is definitely a demand for those. In Oklahoma, we have a lot of little towns with markets. The more we can support local and organic, the more that grows.
Greg Glaser: Less is more. We grow smaller in these low-tech organic craft hubs. We humble ourselves and that’s where we have strength. High-tech living—we saw a preview of that with the COVID shot and the mRNA upgrade. It has consequences like heart disease. We don’t see that among the unvaccinated; we see thriving. There’s a beautiful remnant, a control group that is succeeding. The Lord always saves a remnant. I’m not into the super high-tech transhumanist rocket to Mars stuff at all.
Cathy Meehan: Let’s just make the Earth healthy. My house is a little two-bedroom “cabin in the woods.” We simplified and the EMF exposure is almost zero. We need attorneys like you, Greg, to fight the legal parts and keep that grassroots growing.
Greg Glaser: California parents can find me at gregglaser.com and anyone can find my organization at physiciansforinformedconsent.org.
Cathy Meehan: Thank you so much, Greg. May God bless you and continue your great work. I’d love to have you on again.
Greg Glaser: Thanks.
