Cathy Meehan: Welcome to this edition of the The Meehan Mission Podcast. This is where faith, science, truth, and health intersect. And I like to introduce you to the movers and shakers in the world. Today’s episode, we’re joined by Dr. Bob Sears. He is a pediatrician and an author who’s been fighting for our kids and medical freedom for quite some time. We’re gonna talk about his books, how he sees the future of medical freedom, and just what we can do to share our information with parents so they’re informed too. So let’s get started.
Cathy Meehan: Well, hello everyone and thanks for joining us. I’m Cathy Meehan and on today’s episode, I have the marvelous Dr. Bob Sears. Hello, Dr. Sears.
Dr. Bob Sears: Hello, Kathy. I’m super happy to be on your show. Thanks for inviting me in.
Cathy Meehan: Hey, you bet. And so listen, what I wanted to do was I’ve recently been introduced to you. I think we met at MAPS last year. And then more recently, I got to know you from the Physicians for Informed Consent meeting we had over in California. And I was just so excited because I’ve heard your name a lot. You have been fighting for our children, for quite a while and you are one of those doctors that I call a mover and a shaker. You’re not afraid to share your opinion and you are not afraid to tell the truth, right? So what I wanted to do is bring you onto our audience so they could get to know you if they didn’t already know you and then also talk about some of the great exciting things that you write about to help educate other parents and people wanting to know more information. So to get started, I’d like to hand the microphone over to you. And if you could give us kind of like a little background on not, doesn’t have to be like three days long, but a background on, you know, how did you get into pediatrics and what made you the disruptor that you are?
Dr. Bob Sears: How long is your show? No, I’ll give you the two minute version. You know, my dad is a pediatrician and so I kind of always grew up, you know, watching him enjoy what he does. And he told me, you know, Bob, if you can go into business for yourself and not have a boss, then that’s a great way to make a living. And so I, listened to him. And I, you know, in medical school, I was just really drawn towards pediatrics because I love working with kids. But I also found I really like working with parents and there’s sort of jokes that go around in medical school and in pediatrics that the parents are like, you know, the big problem and no one likes dealing with parents. But I love dealing with parents and because I was a parent too by that time. And so I think having my own kids really allowed me to. empathize with my patients. And so I loved pediatrics and so I went to medical school, a pediatric residency, and then I joined my dad’s practice here in Southern California in 1998. I never looked back. And the whole vaccine thing kind of… It came my way, because in Georgetown, where I went to medical school, I was trained that vaccines are great. And I actually used to think that they were great and that they were totally harmless for everybody. But at Georgetown, I got exposed to a book that a friend of mine made me read. And my wife and I needed a place to stay. And we had our baby and we were essentially homeless looking for an apartment around or somewhere to stay. And a friend of mine said, well, you can stay in our apartment, in our house, as long as you read this book. And that book has since become much more popular. But back then it was a very obscure book. It was called A Shot in the Dark. And it was written by Barbara Lowe Fisher, who started NVIC, the National Vaccine Information Center that we all know now. And of course, Candace Owens did a special called A Shot in the Dark. And I think that was a tribute to this original book that really this book is what shone the spotlight on vaccine reactions. And I read that book, it opened my eyes. And once you read the science on vaccine reactions, you can’t forget it.
Cathy Meehan: Yes, her series.
Dr. Bob Sears: And the science was very solid, even back in the early 90s when I was reading this information. So that’s what got me started on this.
Cathy Meehan: So it was interesting. So it was kind of like a give and a take. I’ll give you some room if you read this book. And, you know, I find that really interesting because there so many pediatricians out there today that we present the material or we’re just like, just look into some of the research or the lack of research and they won’t even look at it. I mean, how do we break that cycle? with physicians when we’re just trying to get the information to them. How do we break it?
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, you know, Kathy, honestly, I don’t think you break this cycle with currently practicing pediatricians, especially if they’ve been in practice for a number of years. I just don’t think they’re open minded. I read this book, Kicking and Screaming. Like my wife told me, you know, you got to read this book. And I’m like, I’m a doctor, you know, why do I need to read this book? Literally, you know, and And but I did it, you know, for my family and I’m very glad I did. And I both blame and thank that friend for, you he’s really responsible for the entire direction of my life. But, you know, today’s pediatricians, something has to prompt them to want to look into this. Something other than a patient sitting in their office handing them something to read. Either a family member is vaccine injured or they see. a clear and obvious vaccine injury right in front of them. Something has to prompt it or say a government in our country comes into power and has some good members of the government that want to steer our national health system in a better direction. And then suddenly 51 % of our nation opens up their minds to the idea that natural healthy living might be better than pharmaceutical-based living. And that’s what’s happened. And so I think maybe more doctors are probably more open to it now. But up until now, no. So I think you have to reach people in their training early on in medical school or something in their family has to trigger them to want to look deeper.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. remember, I started out as a pharmaceutical rep many years ago, and I remember that I would go to the residency programs and go to the clinics where the new physicians were practicing, because I knew that if I could get in the door and get them before they learned anything else, that I could better address their… concerns with the pro-pharmaceutical stuff, right? I mean, and all I did was say, you have these symptoms, you need to prescribe this drug, but get them early before they had a chance to really get out there. And I’m sorry that I ever did that. I don’t do that now. Now I look for critical thinking pediatricians and critical thinking doctors, because there’s not enough of you out there. There’s really not. I just want to step back a little bit because you read the information. And then how did you take that information and transfer that into your practice and how you were going to see patients and parents when it did come to medical procedures and things? Because that’s also part of the equation is you actually stood up for what we call the truth and gave your patients options. What gave you the courage to do that?
Dr. Bob Sears: You know, I think the second event that kind of coincided with this was, you my mind was open to the idea that vaccine injury is real and can happen. But number two was the addition of the hepatitis B vaccine onto our schedule. And to me, that made no sense. There was no data. And the scientists that put forth the data that got hepatitis B vaccine added to our schedule They worked for the pharmaceutical companies and they were not openly lying about the data, but they presented the data in a very misleading manner that made our country and made doctors all over the country fear a huge hepatitis B epidemic among children. And once that got passed, I decided to scrutinize the entire vaccine schedule. From that point on, I decided, hey, I’m not just gonna automatically do the CDC schedule. The CDC has now done two things that made no sense to me, the denial of vaccine injury and the addition of Hep B vaccine. So I started even looking at vaccines that I thought were even very important, things that I thought kids really should have. I at least started to really scrutinize them to understand the safety. And honestly, I found right away my patients wanted the same thing. Somehow the patients in the area that I live, they were already questioning vaccines. In fact, I never even needed to tell a patient, hey, you should think twice about vaccines, or you should look into vaccines, or you should consider not doing all the vaccines. I didn’t have to tell anyone that. They came to me already knowing that. And I was just one of the only doctors that would see them. hold their hand through the process while they figure this out. So it’s just a natural fit where I live. Although I would say that’s not unique to where I live. I think that kind of practice really could have could insert itself in any major city, any major suburban area in our country or all over the world. Thanks to the current political environment, people all over the world are now looking for a doctor like this. It’s no longer a minority.
Cathy Meehan: Amen. Yeah. Yeah, it really, really is. Did you find, well, I’m going to guess the answer is yes, there were very few physicians that thought like you. I because I think the number is growing. But did you, were you able to find community with physicians that, you know, were more open minded and really kind of questioning vaccines and other medical procedures?
Dr. Bob Sears: which is awesome. So it just fit right in, fit naturally right in. yes, yeah. So I have that community now, all over the world. But back then, no. think there were, in sort of the four county area where I live and practice, there was probably five other doctors practicing pediatrics that I knew of who were open-minded. And all but one of them have now moved away. So none of them are around anymore. Now, back at that point, other doctors were open-minded in that at least they would tolerate you in their practice if you didn’t vaccinate. But starting about 20 years ago, all these practices doubled down and said, no, we’re not going to tolerate you in our office anymore. We’re going to kick you out if you don’t follow the complete vaccine schedule. And they’re still doing that today. And I don’t know how they survive as a business. you know, how pediatrics can, I mean, everyone’s sort of, you know, jockeying for, you know, for business and trying to bring in new clients and help their pediatric practices thrive. Yet they’re turning away what is becoming probably a majority of families where I live who don’t want every vaccine. So I think just by, you know, financial pressure, I think these pediatricians are going to be forced to start seeing these patients. And I think they’ll be pleasantly surprised at how astonishingly healthy these patients are and how they manage to survive their 18 years of childhood without vaccines. So that’s the thing, I think pediatricians literally think your child is going to die if you don’t vaccinate. They literally think that. And the problem is they’re not seeing any of these patients because they’re not keeping them in their office. Once they see them and raise them in their office, think people will be
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, it is awesome. I know. Yes. Yeah. Well, know, part of that equation, and I’ve talked about it before on other podcasts, is some pediatricians actually do get financial kickbacks and incentives from insurance companies. We know that Blue Cross Blue Shield and Aetna both do a pay for performance. So that’s where the pediatrician is like, well, I’ve got to keep my
Dr. Bob Sears: be a lot more understanding of this.
Cathy Meehan: percentages up, my numbers up, because if I don’t have enough vaccinated patients, I won’t get that incentive. But really what I want them to do is think critically, because you might miss out on those bonuses, but you can still have a thriving pediatric practice just like you have that doesn’t force vaccinations on their patients. Because you will always have patients coming in that, number one, sometimes they just want to stay healthy, right? And so they want to make sure that they’re staying healthy. There are so many other ways that a pediatrician can still keep their doors open that they don’t have to rely on insurance kickbacks. And I think the financial bias keeps many of them from actually looking into the safety profiles of vaccinations. Because they’re like, well, if I don’t vaccinate, I’m going… out of business. And that’s really kind of sad that they do that. it’s very sad. And that’s where we don’t have those critical thinking, not enough critical thinking pediatricians, because you and I both know plenty of pediatricians nowadays that have more of a functional medicine pediatric practice. And they are thriving and people are just like on waiting lists to get in the door. Absolutely. Which kind of brings me to
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, yeah.
Cathy Meehan: meeting all of the, yeah, I was just gonna say meeting all these other pediatricians. I know that COVID, I think we have a delay, a small delay. Meeting, yeah, sorry. Okay, I’m gonna start over. We can cut that part out. So one of the things that I’ve noticed was after the COVID vaccine came out,
Dr. Bob Sears: We do have some sort of delay, yeah. It’s interesting. That’s okay.
Cathy Meehan: That was really eye-opening to a lot of just people, Americans in general. And I remember saying years ago, it’s going to take an adult vaccine to really wake up people and see that vaccinations can cause injuries. And I always think that the great thing about COVID was it really brought a lot of us out and together. just kind of proving that point. do you feel that the COVID vaccine actually had a well, a good awareness to people to start questioning vaccinations for the childhood schedule?
Dr. Bob Sears: yes. Yeah. A hundred percent. And so many doctors have come out of the woodwork questioning all vaccines now after watching what happened with COVID. And you’re right. feel like initially people thought all these things we’re seeing with the COVID vaccines and lockdown policies and COVID mandates without good reason, without a vaccine that prevents transmission. Everyone witnessed that and thought briefly that, that’s just the COVID vaccine, but all other vaccines are just fine. But no, people woke up very quickly to the fact that every criticism you can make about COVID vaccine and COVID mandate policies, all the same arguments can be made for almost every vaccine we use. Lack of thorough safety research. lack of placebo controlled safety research, pharmaceutical maybe overreach and how they present the efficacy numbers, people ignoring vaccine injuries and governments mandating products like this without good reason. And so that’s really spilled over into the whole childhood schedule. think that’s why. Honestly, more and more doctors are now coming to realize the whole vaccine program wasn’t what it was cracked up to be. Maybe they still like it, but they’re more understanding of the downsides of our current program. so I think this, think, you know, in another, you know, 10 years, I think we’re going to be even in a better place among doctors. You know, I think what I like to tell people is, The public is now well aware of vaccine injury, vaccine risk, and the possible benefits of raising a child without vaccines. Now, so many people in the public are now looking into that. And that’s not going to go away. No matter who wins the next election, no matter who runs the CDC five years from now. the public is now well aware of everything that’s going on. So that’s gonna stay with us. That’s kind of an irrevocable change in our society. And I think the government and the medical community is gonna have to adapt and accept that very large part of our society now and work with us and understand us. And they’re not just gonna go back to, you mandated everything, all of a sudden they can’t because the society won’t tolerate it. that’s one positive outcome, I think, of the pandemic is just this whole public awareness that finally, you know, our people who have been fighting for this awareness for years, that’s, I think, our biggest victory that no one can take away.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, no, that’s I and I love that you point that out because you know we as consumers It’s really interesting how we drive the market for so many things and you’re right It’s almost like it’s it’s gonna snowball and the more people know about it and and and I just you know pray that the next pandemic that comes along they’re gonna have a really really difficult time convincing everybody that You know, we need a vaccine, we need these mandates, and all of that. I mean, we do have the public awareness, which is, you’re right, I love the fact that I don’t think it’s gonna go away. I mean, with social media nowadays and a little bit less censorship, it’s just, it’s snowballing, which is really, really great. So one of the things I also wanted to talk to you about is not only do you educate your own patients,
Dr. Bob Sears: Nope.
Cathy Meehan: but your creative ability to write and give information to people so that they can learn about the vaccines, the industry and everything basically through almost storytelling. What gave you that idea?
Dr. Bob Sears: Back in college, I was, you know, pre-med major, but I really liked writing and the English department tried to recruit me to become an English major and my girlfriend who, you know, eventually became my wife, she convinced me, you know, to keep the doctor route going. But I loved writing. I enjoyed it and I really love reading. I’m avid. reader of fiction. So I just love storytelling. And so, you know, obviously I’ve done a lot of nonfiction writing over a number of years, but it occurred to me, you know, nonfiction writing is probably just as boring to write as it is to read. You reading like the vaccine book, it’s not a…
Cathy Meehan: Candy.
Dr. Bob Sears: It’s not an enjoyable read. It’s an educational read. But I thought, gosh, if I could put all the same vaccine-related information into stories and people can learn it and read it through story, I feel like they remember it better. And so I had all these life experiences in my office with really interesting cases of infectious diseases and interesting cases of vaccine politics and vaccine laws, vaccine activism, sadly, experiences with vaccine reactions. And I thought, if I just write this in a nonfiction book, people read it and maybe find it interesting, but you don’t hold on to it. if I write, for example, if I write a story, one of my stories I like is this nurse who is working in a pediatric office who totally feels like vaccine injury is made up and no one is ever injured by vaccines. And she even likes to belittle patients who come in refusing vaccines. And she rolls her eyes at them and, you know, huffs out of the room. so then one day she gives vaccines to one of their kids and The parent was even saying, I’m worried about vaccines, I’m worried about vaccines, injury and reactions. And the nurse says, don’t worry about it. And she gives them the shots. And that mom calls back two hours later from home, basically saying, I’ve lost my child. And that nurse has to deal with the personal trauma of being the one that instigated that. But the realization that she just totally blew people off for years who was worried about this and she saw it happen, right? The kid comes back into the office. And so I tell this story, because that’s kind of actually based on one of the nurses that worked for me. She related that experience prior to coming to work for me. That’s what woke her up. And she went through this horrible experience of realization. And so when I write a story like that, I feel like it sits with somebody better than me just writing a two page list of what the possible vaccine reactions are and how to identify them and what to do if it happens. You read a story of someone agonizing through this and I think it just speaks better. And so I basically took every vaccine, every infection and every sort of like political and
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Dr. Bob Sears: media argument and, you know, doctors arguments and science and research. I just put it all together in a big list of kind of interwoven stories that, to me, I think they’re pretty good. I think they’re pretty good stories. And I still cry in some of the stories when I reread them about what people have to go through. And I think it’s a great way to learn it and feel it and have it really sink in.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, I absolutely agree. If you can tell stories in anything that you’re doing, it does have a bigger impact. And I think it’s because it’s tying emotions in with it. And people can often picture in their mind stories and characters as opposed to just reading graphs and data. There’s just two completely different compelling things. yeah, it’s for…
Dr. Bob Sears: Yes.
Cathy Meehan: you touched on, so she was a nurse that had experienced that. She was very kind of closed minded before. Now she has actually seen an injury. So she’s coming to, if you want to call it the other side where, you know, there is some truth to vaccine injury and everything. I just want to loop that into the physicians that are there now that are going having aha moments, wow, that child that died after their six months vaccines, maybe that, I mean, what do you say to those people? Because I I say we forgive you, just come, when you know better, you do better.
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, you know, I just, I feel like when doctors see that happen to one of their patients, it’s so much easier to pretend it can’t be from vaccines, especially because the AAP and the AMA, and for many years, the CDC told you it can’t happen from vaccines. That’s so much easier to just say, well, it’s coincidental. You know, they died for some other reason. It’s a coincidence we gave them four shots today and they died that night. They died of SIDS or they died of some sort of underlying seizure disorder. It’s honestly, as a doctor, it’s just easier to believe that it’s not your fault and it’s not the vaccines. Because to have your eyes opened otherwise, I think you’re asking yourself to, I guess, take some of the blame for that. And that’s hard for doctors to swallow. So until the medical associations start teaching this in medical school and start telling their doctors that all of this is real, don’t think they’re gonna, honestly don’t think a lot of them are gonna have come to Jesus moments with vaccine injury. Honestly.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that’s good.
Dr. Bob Sears: I don’t think I’ve ever talked to a single doctor that has told me they’ve seen a bad reaction and now they get it. But I’ve talked to hundreds who have said, yeah, this thing happened to my patient right after vaccines, but I know it’s not the vaccines. So I don’t know.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that’s sad. I know one of our nurses came over from the NICU because she’s like, I got to get out of that. At her initial thought, vaccines were safe and effective, but she remembers every time they do the HEPB, they would roll in the crash cart to have next to the baby just in case there was some bad reaction or anything. And now she’s like, as soon as she figured it out, she’s like, I’m out of here. And so I’m out of here. And I just need to, yeah.
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s one of my stories. Yeah, one of my stories is a NICU nurse doing the exact same thing that you just said. And I’ve heard it from other NICU nurses.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, get out. Yeah, you’ve got to get out. it’s these physicians that… Gosh. I mean, I have a friend whose baby died after six months. And she went and presented all… She was a physician and presented all of the data to that pediatrician. And to this day, he denies that the vaccines had anything to do with it. So I mean, now the evidence is starting to come out. I mean, it’s literally starting to come out. I just did a podcast with Nick Holcher, who was reviewing a study about the P450 enzyme that little infants don’t even have to break down the toxins in their liver. So evidence is coming out. It’s just how do we get that in front of the faces of these pediatricians? I don’t know. The other thing going against us, Excuse me, are the three lettered agencies like the American Academy of Pediatrics, Boo, right? The AMA, Boo, the CDC, at least we’ve got, you know, Bobby Kennedy in there helping us on that side, but until we get, I don’t know how we’re going to crack those. I don’t know how we’re going to crack those, but it’s going to, I guess it’s going to start with the consumer. It’s going to start with the consumer.
Dr. Bob Sears: Right? Yeah, I don’t think we’re going to crack the AAP or the AMA. I think competing organizations that are open-minded and are open to all the science, I think they’re already there. They’re already on the rise. The AAPs, the… gosh, what is it? Physician…
Cathy Meehan: Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
Dr. Bob Sears: So I think it’s, yeah, I think it’s association of American physicians and surgeons or the other way around, but they are growing. They are on top of this. They are being very effective. And they’re in direct competition with the AMA currently. And there’s also some organizations on the pediatric front that are competing with the AAP. I… Yeah, I feel like it’s just going to be an economic thing. The funding of these organizations, these are basically lobbying, very largely lobbying organizations. And I just think the public pressure over people wanting to be open-minded, think are hopefully just going to phase these organizations out. I don’t think we’ll see a change in the AAP or the AMA. I’m not optimistic about it.
Cathy Meehan: No, I agree with you. And I kind of think there’s going to be kind of like a parallel system. It’s almost like we have allopathic medicine and then we have functional medicine because you are going to have the patient and the families that want to discover root cause, which functional medicine is really going to staying healthy, supporting our immune system. We don’t just manage disease like the allopathic does, but Not everybody wants to change their lifestyle or eat healthy or, you know, talk about sleep and all of those other things. There are literally, we’ll have people that come to our practice, they don’t want to do any of that. They want to pill for every ill. And so, you know, there’s always going to be that, that other lane where if you want to pill for every ill, you’re going to go, you can go over there. But here’s this other avenue that’s growing. And, you know, the demand is, so much there, again, from consumers. People are starting to learn, get educated. Definitely, I suggest podcasts, books. I love the fact that you have books out. I will definitely make sure that we put up both of the links to your books. But I do want to ask you, so on a tale of two sides, you chose a pseudonym. John Philip Ryan. Where’d that name come from?
Dr. Bob Sears: Right? Well, John Patrick Ryan was already taken. That is the world famous Tom Clancy character from Hunt for Red October and Patriot Games. And that was one of my favorite book series in college and medical school. so I didn’t want to copy John Patrick Ryan. So just came up with John Philip Ryan. I was scared when I published that book. I thought I was going to get into trouble for telling stories about semi-truthful events, but with a full, honest, open narrative. And I really thought I was going to get in trouble for it. So I wrote it under the pseudonym. I had a different computer I used, a dedicated email address, dedicated bank account. I totally went the whole nine yards completely separating myself. from this author and this book. And then a few years went by and I didn’t get into trouble. So then I figured, well, there’s no reason to keep us separated. But yeah, yeah, it’s a tale of two sides, John Philip Ryan. yeah, that’s kind of the couple of stories I’ve mentioned so far. That’s what this book is. And it’s like reading the vaccine book, but just way more fun and way more interesting. And you kind of get the same data. Like these stories, I interweave all the data and the facts into it so you’re learning about everything while you’re reading the stories, while the characters in the story are learning everything. But yeah, I don’t know why I thought I would get in trouble for it, honestly. I don’t know why, but I didn’t. And seemed like no one cared that I wrote the book, no one in the mainstream medical community. So yeah, I’ll probably re-publish it someday under my name, and maybe add some stories to it, add some newer tales to it, and just own up to it. But yeah, for now, it’s still under the John Philip Ryan authorship.
Cathy Meehan: Well, I understand of thinking about getting in trouble because we know people with medical license that get into trouble. And I think that you got in a little bit of trouble and it wasn’t for writing a book and it’s because you are courageous. You got in trouble for being courageous and being truthful. And so that brings us to your latest book, One Doctor versus the Medical Board. And I would love for you to elaborate a little bit on that and why you felt compelled at this time to write this and actually use your name on that.
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, Let’s see, gosh, where do I even start? I mean, that whole ordeal with the medical board, it was so traumatic to me, like emotionally and mentally and physically, it was very traumatic. And as I was going through it, it just occurred to me that I found writing very therapeutic and I so much enjoyed my other fictional writing.
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Dr. Bob Sears: that I decided, you know, number one, should I just write a non-fiction version of my experience with the medical board? And I thought that would be super boring. But if I could write a fictional version of what happened to me, I can pretty much write anything I want, you know, right? But have it all be true to the experience I went through. And so I could make up all these characters. made up, I kind of imagined, you who is the medical board investigator that came after me and what is her life like? What is the lawyer who prosecuted me through the medical board? You know, what is she all about? And what goes on in her life? And, you know, other doctors around me, patients, you my office, my wife, and my lawyers, and, you know, kind of weaving a whole tale of my experience with the medical board was, I think it really helped me come through it and get on top of it and actually come through it feeling better for having gone through it and feeling more empowered and feeling like they didn’t get me down and they didn’t win. Writing a tale of what ultimately and in a lot of ways ends up as a victorious tale. I guess I didn’t so much feel like it at the time when I was going through it, but writing it and now looking back it as, you in hindsight, I feel like my experience was a huge victory just for my life, for my practice, for the way I practice. for what it did for medical freedom, for what it did just bringing awareness to problems with our medical board processes and policies and just medical freedom in general. And so I wrote about it and I wanted to own it as the author. And what I had to do, I had to tweak it a little bit. I wanted to call it Dr. Bob versus the medical board. But I really had to have the main character and every character in there be a fictional character. And as long as everyone in there is fictional, then I can write whatever I want. I can write the truth in every way that I want without holding back. Because everything I’m writing in there about what the medical board had done is all based on made up events and made up fictional characters. It’s interesting, I discovered that if you write a fictional story and you write falsehoods about somebody that implicates them in wrongdoing or makes them look bad in any way, even if it’s a fictional story, but if someone can prove that you’re writing about them, then they can sue you. You’re liable for a
Cathy Meehan: Huh.
Dr. Bob Sears: for libel. Yeah, yeah. Like if I say I make up a fictional tale about the president of the United States, but I call him something else, but the president proves I’m writing about him or her, they can sue me. so fictional tales, have to be careful. Yeah, so I had to make sure everything I wrote was true. Either…
Cathy Meehan: Really. Wow.
Dr. Bob Sears: was totally true or totally made up, know, one way or the other, or a totally made up person. some of the book, some of the book is, is I took, I took license to write, you know, fun, interesting things that didn’t really happen, but made the story so much more interesting and fun in my opinion. So it was fun, but I feel like the, the one doctor versus the medical board book really gives people,
Cathy Meehan: you
Dr. Bob Sears: a very in-depth, thorough look at what it is like to be a doctor going through a medical board investigation and in some ways losing that investigation and then in some ways coming out victorious. So I wanted people to be able to experience that so that someday maybe we can change our medical board system.
Cathy Meehan: Right, yeah. I mean, there are several of you that have just been thrown into the fire and come out successfully and using your story to help others. I’m hoping that we’re going to see a decrease in these problems and a lot more victories, which I think we’re going to have a lot more of these victories, but just Being able to share your experience with other people, mean, that’s why I do the podcast, because I want people to learn from what other people have done. So we’re either learning about facts or science or emotional journeys or, you know, when you know better, you do better. You know, all of those things, I think being this community of people who share is… what’s going to catapult us into healthier kids for sure. Because I feel bottom line, I wake up every morning and I’m like, what can I do to help spread the truth or bring movers and shakers to everybody so that we can actually share that knowledge and do something with it. So I appreciate you for that. I want to touch on super quick because you are one of the founding members of Physicians for Informed Consent. And I want to make sure that you guys did the silver book. I’m just going to hold it up real quick. The Vaccines and the Diseases They Target. This is not fiction. This is not entertainment, everybody. It’s basically facts. So a quick, quick rundown. Why do you guys create that book?
Dr. Bob Sears: Well, back when we started Physicians for Informed Consent, we had some really, really smart people, people way smarter than me, who collected all the data from the past century that was collected on infectious diseases. And what they developed was so profoundly mind-blowing, essentially, how The risk of all these infectious diseases from polio to measles to theria and tetanus and meningitis and mumps and whooping cough. I don’t know if I’m, I know I’m leaving out a few diseases, but all these infections that the general public has this misconception that everyone was dying left and right from those infections. and vaccines came along and magically saved us. And when you actually look at all the data we have at the numbers of these infections, 99.99 % of people were never harmed by these infections, were not damaged. The number of people harmed by these infections pre-vaccine was a tiny, tiny fraction of, you know, 0.1%. I mean, just, it was such a small number of people. And that’s not to say that that’s not tragic. You know, it’s always tragic when someone dies of an infection. But what it was doing to us as a society and the number of people truly harmed by infection was staggeringly low. And what pulled us out of that was not so much vaccines, but just, sanitation, cleaner living, hygiene, nutrition, just healthier living is what brought our society out of that. So when we discovered all this through lots and lots of research, we figured that’s something people need to know. PIC, Physicians for Informed Consent, basically put all this data into you know, little two page handouts that people could read and understand. And then they decided, hey, let’s actually put it in a book so that you can read two pages on every infection that vaccines are targeting. And then you can read two pages on every vaccine. And if a vaccine needed three or four pages, we gave it three or four pages. But for the most part, every disease is two pages, every vaccine is two pages. It’s concise. It’s all data driven and it gives you the picture that diseases were always a very low risk. Today, they’re an extremely low risk and the vaccines themselves have considerable risk and you can compare that side to side for each vaccine disease pair. It’s kind of what I did in the vaccine book, but I don’t show you all the data. What the silver booklet does is it shows you all the actual data and numbers that proves this is all true. And it also expands on some side topics like vaccine reactions in general and aluminum and other ingredients in vaccines and do vaccines prevent the spread of diseases. And so it goes into other topics as well, but I love it. It’s a great reference book to look at the data, but it’s also something that I’m hoping will open the minds of doctors who see it. It’s definitely influenced the minds of a number of politicians who we’ve shown it to because it’s easy to look at and read and get the gist of one page, just spending a few minutes looking at that page and then it opens your mind. So I’m very proud of it. I can’t take any credit for actual authorship of this because the minds that are far smarter than me. at PIC put this together, but I’m very, very good friends with the authors and I’m very proud of what they put together and I’m very proud to help put it out there.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, it is an excellent, excellent resource. you know, I know currently pediatricians give parents a V.I.S. vaccine information sheet provided by the CDC, which is just this little, you know, like you might have bruising or swelling around the shot. No, I think they should take the one to two pages out of the silver book. And that should be the informed consent page that every parent reads. before they accept or decline vaccinations because that is where all the real data is. So we need to, it’s a great, great, great book. It is a great book. And congratulations for awesome.
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, and I will say, well, thanks. Yeah, thanks. On the Physicians for Informed Consent website, you can actually download VIS forms, like the PICS version of the VIS forms. And doctors can actually use those in their office to hand to patients as better informed consent for vaccination, in addition to utilizing the silver booklet.
Cathy Meehan: Oh, that’s excellent. That’s an excellent resource. That is so great. So Dr. Sears, if people want to find out more information about you, where do they go? Do you have a website or a Facebook page? What’s the best way to find out and follow you?
Dr. Bob Sears: Yeah, I stopped bothering with Facebook a long time ago. I’m trying to get back on Instagram, but that’s not as easy for me to navigate. My main landing page besides Instagram, I guess I’m at Dr. Bob Sears on Instagram, is my website is just drbobsears.com. Dr. Bob Sears.com. The things I like on the website as far as resources, there’s all my podcasts. Every book about vaccines I’ve written actually now has a companion podcast. The books we’ve talked about today, I recorded a companion podcast to go along with it to expand on it. I have a video podcast series called the Vaccine Conversation, which I’m very proud of. You can access that through my website. I have a shorter video series on my website that’s basically a vaccine consult video. with me where I recorded basically what would I tell a patient in the office if I was spending an hour with them talking to them about vaccines. And that’s something that you can pay for to access to watch as if you are literally having a vaccine consultation with me. All kinds of stuff, I’m on my bio, events, organizations that I support. health freedom organizations that I’m part of, and my office information. So yeah, it’s all on the website there. So check it out and then definitely make use of the podcast because I think that’s a great resource, as you know, it’s a lot of fun to do podcasts. And I think it’s a great way to expand a book into an ongoing living entity that you can keep adding to. And I’ve actually done that with a vaccine book as well. My flagship book, the vaccine book, I have a companion podcast that actually gives you additional chapters through audio that I’ve created for things that I needed to update in the book.
Cathy Meehan: That is so great. Well, I love that you have such a creative mind so that you can just even, you know, use that for therapy and then also for educating because that’s really what we need. I appreciate you taking the time out and joining us because you know what I really want? I promote science, faith, truth and health on the Meehan Mission podcast. And I just ask our audience to share Dr. Bob Sears books, share his website. utilize that. If you know parents that are, you know, questioning things or just kind of new to the movement for medical freedom, please check out his site, share this podcast, share his podcast, because it’s together that we are going to continue to make the changes that our little kids and babies need for a healthy future. So thanks, Dr. Bob. Have a great day.
Dr. Bob Sears: Thanks for, yeah, you too.
