Is Salt Really Bad for You? Dr. David Brownstein Explains Salt, Blood Pressure & Health Myths

Cathy Meehan: Hello everyone and welcome to this episode of the MeeHan Mission podcast. And as you can see, I have one of my favorite functional medicine doctors, Dr. David Brownstein. And in fact, you can also go through some of our past videos because he did some great explaining on some hormones in episode 20 and we did statins in episode 30. And not only that, but we also touched on iodine, food dyes and a few other things back in episode 12. And I just want to thank you Dr. Brownstein because I know when patients come to us and I want to send them information that helps explain things a little bit more further. And then plus just to educate our general audience on functional medicine and the difference between mainstream medicine. I know and I can count on you being a go-to guy because I know you do your research. I love the fact that you write books to help explain to patients. And I’m just going to tell you, one of my patients, well, not my patient, the patient of the clinic, his mother was told that she needs to be on a no salt diet because they scratch and damage your veins. So right then I was like, okay, first thing they need to get this book, salt, your way to health. And then I called you and I was like, you want to come on a podcast? So thank you for being here today.

David Brownstein, MD: Thanks for having me, Cathy.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, you bet. It’s always wonderful to listen to your wealth of knowledge because I also love how you explain things. If you want, you might tell the listeners, if they don’t already know, why you choose to write books on topics.

David Brownstein, MD: You know, when I started practicing holistic medicine about 1992, so 34 years ago, I quickly realized to have fully informed patients, gotta be able, for me to get my patients to do things that they might not have any idea about or they haven’t read about or they didn’t know about, I gotta know what I’m talking about. So when I started learning holistic ideas, which vastly different from what I was taught in medical school, and I started to experiment with and figure out what works and what doesn’t work in real practice. I had to be able to make a case to my patients that, here’s why you want to do this. Perhaps you want to consider doing this, even though it goes against maybe what the conventional grain says you should be doing. So I first wrote the book to help my patients understand where I’m coming from. So if I’m to talk to them about a particular hormone or a therapy or a device, I want them to have all the information at their hands and in their brains so they can make a informed consent decision. Hey, I want to do this. I don’t want to do this. You know, here are all the negatives. Here are all the positives. Here’s why we should consider doing X therapy. What I originally wrote, you know, why I wrote the book was I—they’re doing bioidentical hormones and I kept having to explain myself and I was repeating the same lines all the time. And I thought, you know, let me write it down so patients can read it. And maybe I won’t be fielding the same question from 7:30 a.m. till 5 or 6 p.m. And also, I think patients will be more comfortable with things and they’ll just—they’ll have an easier time deciding. And so I originally wrote to patients a little selfishly maybe to make my life a little bit easier in my office. But I found out that—the power of the written word. And even with all our 21st century technology and all that social media stuff, the written word still is pretty darn powerful. And, you know, it requires a lot of thought and a lot of research and a lot of effort to make a coherent sentence, much less make a coherent paragraph, much less make a coherent book and make a case for something. And I wrote my first book, Miracle of Natural Hormones, and I liked it. I liked the whole idea of researching and putting my thoughts down. And then I went and did my second book and my third book and my fourth book. And I know we’re going to talk about salt today. And eventually, Salt Your Way to Health. And I found out that I like writing books. And I might have a little bit of talent for it. And so there’s two things that motivate me to write a book. One is I’m excited about something and two is I’m irritated about something. In regards to Salt Your Way to Health, I was excited about it.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Well that’s good.

David Brownstein, MD: Although there was a little irritation that caused me to write that book too, which we can get into. But I’m still interested in writing and still interested in seeing patients and still find practicing medicine the best way in the world to make a living. So it’s the best thing in the world. But I have the best job in the world.

Cathy Meehan: You really do, but you know, when you talk about it saying it’s selfish, but it’s not really selfish at all because really it’s a win-win because you are doing your own research, you are saving yourself time so that you don’t have to continually repeat something and then you’re really giving your patients and the community a valuable resource. So it’s a real win-win and I am so glad that you do your books. I do wish more physicians would take the time to do that, but you know what, you’re doing them now so we’re going to definitely help you educate the other people and let them know that those things are available. Let’s start talking about this yearbook on salts. And like I said, because there’s so much information out there, just so much information, it can be overwhelming. We have good information, we have misinformation, there’s so much for patients and people to weed through. And like I said, this one woman was told by her mainstream medical doctor that salts will—what I said—scratch and damage your veins. I mean, yeah, you can take over from there.

David Brownstein, MD: Well, you—Salt will scratch and damage your veins. I’d like to see a single resource on that one because there isn’t any. Salt is the second major constituent in the human body next to water. It’s an essential item. We can’t manufacture salt in our body. We have to get it from our diet or supplement with it. We need huge amounts of salt. And if we want to just refer to the pure form of salt, sodium and chloride, forming sodium chloride.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah. Bye.

David Brownstein, MD: You know, salt, sodium and chloride run thousands of chemical reactions in the body. We can’t make energy molecules without salt. We can’t balance the pH of the body without salt. We can’t do anything. We can’t make a hormone. We can’t, you know, no process in the body will work if, as this doctor says, you want to have zero salt. So I’ve been checking salt levels for over three decades in my practice. The vast majority of people are salt deficient. The ranges for salt in the blood testing are huge. The ranges should be like this. And people function better with adequate amounts of salt. The reason I came to write the book, and you have an old cover version of my book, here’s the new cover version. So that was interesting to see it.

Cathy Meehan: Yes, this is the old one.

David Brownstein, MD: So I was writing my third book, I believe. And I wrote Miracle of Natural Hormones and Overcoming Thyroid Disorders. And I was writing my book, Iodine, Why You Need It, Why You Can’t Live Without It. I identify as a male and I’ve never been pregnant. I’m just coming clean here and I’ve never delivered a baby. But I’ve been told that writing a book is kind of like delivering a baby. You’re nurturing the book and then it comes out. And, you know, I was writing this book on iodine and this, you know, I’m seeing patients full-time. We have kids. Going to, hopefully I’m going to sporting events and things and, you know, being attentive to my family. And I write books late at night and I was just writing my iodine book. I was right near the end of it. Every Tuesday in the Detroit Free Press back in the day, there was a health section. And in the health section was not so much about health, it was more about the newest drug out there or the newest medical device that some hospital had purchased or something like that. But in this couple of pages, maybe three, four page section of the Free Press, there was a Q & A to a nutritionist, a resident dietitian. And in that Q & A, just when I was finishing my iodine book, the question came to the woman, is sea salt any different than regular salt? Is there any reason that you should use sea salt over regular salt? Is there any health reason to use it? And is there any difference? Her answer came back, no. There’s no difference. She said, no, there’s no difference between sea salt and regular salt. Both are dangerous to the body and you should limit salt intake. And it was another little paragraph about the problems with salt. So I was—

Cathy Meehan: —from the dietitian.

David Brownstein, MD: When I write books, I become focused on what I’m doing. I was really focused on an editing book, but that irritated me. So I cut that little Q & A out of my Detroit Free Press and I pasted it over my computer. So it was sitting on the wall above my screen and it was annoying me. And I knew what my next book was. As soon as I read the answer to that question, I decided I’m going to write about salt. Now, at that point, I had used salt in my diet. I’ve been checking patient salt levels for maybe 10 years. And the vast majority of people were low in salt. I was having them use salt as a health measure and monitoring their salt levels and seeing adrenal function get better, thyroid function get better, energy get better, you know, with salt. And I never really thought about it. I just thought I knew it’s an essential item. I knew—you know, I know the chemical reactions or I know a lot of the chemical reactions that sodium and chloride are needed as cofactors for. And I was just doing it. And so I see this article and I’m like, that’s my next book. So I finished the iodine book and I literally, as soon as I sent that to the printer, I started the salt book. And so I started, you know, like I do with all my books, I started researching. You know, if the book’s about iodine, I go back to the literature from—I had literature that was a couple hundred years old. In salt, I go back to the original literature. How come I’m seeing such good results with salt? Why is—I was taught in med school, salt equals hypertension. You should have no salt. If you have any salt, you’re getting hypertension. So you go back and you find the original article that sort of—

Cathy Meehan: Right, I think that’s what the majority of people think, yeah.

David Brownstein, MD: —started everyone started saying salt causes hypertension and you find out—we can talk about this article—that you find out that that’s just a bunch of bunk and there was no really good science that salt causes hypertension in the vast majority of people and there’s a bunch of benefits from salt and there’s good salt and bad salt. We can talk about all that, but that’s where that book came from.

Cathy Meehan: Right. Yeah, that’s good. Well, I can’t help but think that is there some kind of a pharmaceutical drug that was coming out during the time and you know how a lot of times some of the propaganda that’s leaked out there is led by somebody in the industry trying to make money somewhere and you know.

David Brownstein, MD: Well, that’s very interesting because that’s actually what happens with all this stuff, really. So if we go back and solve—When I was looking, I never saw my patient’s blood pressure go up with salt. Here I’m having them use a teaspoon, sometimes three to five to six teaspoons, depending on what their salt levels are per day. You know, way more salt than anyone’s gonna put on food, and I’m starting to use it medicinally. And their blood pressure’s not going up. In fact, if they have high blood pressure, a lot of times the blood pressure’s going down. If they have low blood pressure, a lot of times it’s coming up into a more healthy range. So I go back to this original study, it’s called the intersalt study. Worldwide study of—I can’t remember exactly how many centers there were, but it was 26 or 30 centers or so across the world. And they were looking at salt intake or salt excretion, which measures salt intake and blood pressure in populations around the world. And so they were expecting, the authors were expecting to find more salt in the diet, the higher the blood pressure. Well, what they found was in every society, in every setting, but two, there was no correlation with salt and blood pressure. Some had higher salt levels, some had lower salt intake, and some had a little higher blood pressure and lower, but there was no correlation at all. However, there were two centers that had a correlation with low salt intake and low blood pressure. And the authors and the media and the American Heart Association and the Surgeon General of United States, everybody sees then the reporting of those two centers and said, see, salt causes hypertension. We need to lower salt in our diet. So—

Cathy Meehan: And they took those studies, yeah.

David Brownstein, MD: —the Surgeon General went on the national news shows and you know he went on Life Magazine, there was an article about him talking about why as a country we need to lower our salt levels. And we lowered our salt levels. It was in the early 1970s that that came out. And we lowered them a little bit. Blood pressure didn’t change at all with it. And the two centers that they found that had lower salt intake and lower blood pressure were non-acculturated tribes. They were jungle people. One was in Papua New Guinea and one was in Brazil. Now, at the University of Michigan, the winningest college football team in the history of college football, we didn’t have a great year last year, but looking forward to a new national championship for us coming up this year. I took an anthropology class my freshman year, and the professor who taught the class got his PhD on this tribe in, it was called the—

Cathy Meehan: Wolverines.

David Brownstein, MD: God, the Yanomami Indians. They were in Brazil or Papua New Guinea or something like that. And so we study, of course, he wrote a book on it. So guess what book we had to buy as freshmen, and by that book, we learned about the Yanomami Indians, you know, I knew more about the Yanomami Indians than ever. And I still remember, I still remember a lot of it. I remember, you know, we learned some words from them too, that we can still say, well, the Yanomami Indians lived in the middle of the jungle. They hunted and they grabbed food from the plants. So these people had low salt intakes. Pretty much the only salt they’re going to get are from organ meats and from blood from animals.

Cathy Meehan: Their lifestyle probably, yeah, completely different than a typical—

David Brownstein, MD: —they had low salt intake and low blood pressure. What’s not told, the further part of that story is that the Yanomami Indians’ average age of death was about 50, same as that other tribe, the two centers that they found. So the story ran afterwards that salt causes blood pressure because these two centers had low blood pressure and low salt. But they’ve also said in that study that as people get older, they process salt less and older people need to have less salt than younger people because they don’t process it well. Well, the Yanomami Indians and that other tribe never lived to old age, so we don’t even know what happened to them because just their lifespan was shorter than the rest of us. So this was the data seized upon. Is where we live today, 56 years later or so, still with the American Heart Association, everyone else screaming about a low salt diet and your clients being told that by their doctor that somehow it’s could have scratched the veins, which whatever the hell that means.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, if that was to get them to not eat salt, I don’t know, but it’s misinformation.

David Brownstein, MD: So one of the things I found with patients is that if they have adrenal problems, especially low adrenal problems—that was really how I got involved with salt as a holistic doctor. I started diagnosing a lot of adrenal problems and the adrenal glands secrete a hormone called aldosterone that helps to control salt in the body. So I find a lot of people with really low salt levels, really low adrenal gland function and a lot of aching and fatigue and like fibromyalgia symptoms. And these patients started improving when you get their salt levels up. That’s how I kind of started with it. And then I found their blood pressure was too low. When the blood pressure came up better, they felt better and they had more energy. That had high blood pressure that I did this to, their blood pressure came down. So it was almost like a—what’s that called, where it goes up or down—like a therapeutic agent, an adaptogenic agent, where if this is normal functioning for the adrenal gland salt, your low adrenal would bring it up and—

Cathy Meehan: Variation, okay. Too high, it’ll bring it down. Yeah.

David Brownstein, MD: —or if your blood pressure was too low, it’d bring it up. If your blood pressure is too high, would bring it down. Now there are a few people, salt sensitive people, who salt will raise their blood pressure. They’re few and far between. They exist. Salt’s not a cure-all for everything and it’s not perfect out there, but those are few and far between.

Cathy Meehan: Right. Yeah, well, so let’s just let’s break it down just a little bit basic even before that is that there really is a difference between your basic table salt and choosing a more healthy, more mineral rich type sea salt or something. You know, patients can’t just—what is that? The little umbrella Morton salt. You’ve got those table salts that you want to avoid in restaurants. I know many people carry their own personal sea salts and mineral salts with them when they go to restaurants nowadays, which there is a difference in the type of salt you’re going to use. Yeah, right. Yeah. So what do you tell patients to buy?

David Brownstein, MD: So, you know, it’s interesting you’re asking that question because this week of our interview, the Secretary of Health and Human Services announced a new food pyramid and basically took the old pyramid and turned it. And so—

Cathy Meehan: Yes, I was going to ask you about that. Yeah.

David Brownstein, MD: What he said was in the press conference afterwards—what he said after he released the new recommendations—he said, we need to stop eating highly processed foods. Well, with salt, there’s highly processed salt and there’s unrefined, non-processed salt. So I don’t think it takes rocket science to realize which one’s going to be healthier for us. The refined salt has—and the salt manufacturers in the United States consider the minerals naturally occurring in salt are impurities and the reason they consider them impurities because minerals give salt a color to it so if it’s an unrefined salt it’s going to have some kind of color to it because minerals have some color to it now depending on where the salt comes from there’s gonna be different mineral content. Some salt is gray salt like Selena’s Celtic brand salt, Redmond’s real salt is a little bit maybe a darker color, Himalayan salt—what color is Himalayan salt? It’s a—

Cathy Meehan: It’s a pinkish.

David Brownstein, MD: Yeah, pinkish salt. So these are—these are three unrefined salts that I’ve had. I’ve tested myself four times each. They’ve all been clean. And they contain, you know, at least 80 essential minerals that our body needs. And, you know, so you can contrast that salt versus refined salt, like I said, the Morton salt, the little girl holding the umbrella in the little can which has 99 percent sodium and chloride with some extra toxins added to it such as ferrocyanide and aluminum silicate and you know there’s it—well we’re using the term we’re liberally using the term salt here. Salt is salt, it’s sodium and chloride. For health-wise, if we’re going to choose a healthier form of salt, it’s unrefined salt. So we’re going to talk to each other—between me and you and the audience here. From now on, we’re not going to talk about sea salt. Sea salt is the term for salt coming from the ocean. Now, the oceans have the highest amount of salt in the world right now. And all the salt across the world was given to us from the oceans by the maker of the planet. And when the glaciers receded, they left salt behind where there was ocean water and it’s receded back, there are salt mines now. So sea salt is an erroneous term to me. Sea salt could refer to the girl holding the umbrella. It could be to Selena’s Celtic salt or Redmond’s real salt. We want to talk good nomenclature with salt. It’s refined salt and unrefined salt.

Cathy Meehan: Refined. Okay. That’s a good distinction. So that’s good. But let’s, let’s go back to the food pyramid real quick because I was going to ask you about it, but you already brought it up. What took so long to flip the food pyramid? That’s what I want to know.

David Brownstein, MD: You know, when I started doing holistic medicine in 1992, I believe that food pyramid came out in 1980, pretty sure. And I used to lecture with the food pyramid. And I remember lecturing with it saying, you know, it needs some adjusting, but the best thing we could do is flip it. You know, with some adjusting in there, but basically he flipped it. And it’s a beautiful new—

Cathy Meehan: We flipped it.

David Brownstein, MD: —appropriate, well thought out food pyramid that can make our country better. When that food pyramid came out, when the government tells us to eat less fat, what do we do? We eat less fat. When the government tells us to eat less salt, we try and eat less salt. The government tells us to stop smoking cigarettes, we stop smoking cigarettes. From 1970 to now, cigarette smoking has gone down dramatically. So we do listen, but we just want good advice. What we’ve realized, and I think COVID was the epitome of this, is the government’s not always right and the government’s wrong more than it’s right. We need to—when the government makes a statement, we need to evaluate it and come to our own—all of us should come to our own conclusion whether that’s a valid thing or not. But I like the new food pyramid. There are some things that would change and I thought the little stick of butter was too low on there. That should have been up a little bit higher. But overall, I think it’s a great addition.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, I do too. I, you know, I really feel that the United States really does have—the majority of the people have a herd mentality. And I mean that by whatever they’re told they will do, that there’s not enough people that actually try to, you know, research or understand or say why. It’s just like how that—the original food pyramid stayed around for so long. Where there weren’t enough people loud enough making enough noise about it. And you’re fighting against big food and grains were obviously the number one thing you need to eat. Yeah.

David Brownstein, MD: Well, look, you know, it’s interesting you bring that up. You know, I give this lecture on the problems with medicine when there’s no debate. And I go back in time to periods when Semmelweis said to wash your hands and they threw him into a mental asylum and killed him. And it took 30 to 40 years for doctors to wash their hands before surgery and delivering babies. Hundreds of thousands or millions, I don’t even know, people died from sepsis because of that. And how about in 20th century when the AMA was telling doctors Camels were the best cigarettes or whatever they said, Lucky Strikes or something like that. Doctors recommend Lucky Strike Cigarettes. I have the ads for this stuff. And that took a good 30 years before they changed their tune and came out against that. Then we can even move up to COVID time. When they’re telling us this vaccine, you get the vaccine, as Rachel Maddow said, and it stops with you. Done. You’re not going to transmit to someone else. And the transmission dies and the world is saved. And that was all nonsense as well. So what took so long? You know, there’s a lot of money. There’s a lot of a lot of big agriculture, big pharma, big everything behind things. It doesn’t like when they get what they want and they get that misinformation out there they want, they don’t want to change that.

Cathy Meehan: No, they don’t. I think it’s too hard nowadays for them to actually compete. They don’t have three channels, the ABC, CBS, and NBC, like it used to be, just sending out the same message to everybody. Now, we’ve got podcasting and we’ve got all of these independent channels and there’s so much you can find on the internet now that I think it’s harder for them to suppress some of that truth. But I also want to talk about, you know, the other thing is the vaccination schedule. Did you see on Monday, January 5th, they actually reduced the childhood vaccination schedule from—it was an average 80, 85 to 88 vaccines down to 30. So that—I mean, that’s remarkable. I mean, that is—we’ve been trying to—I mean, I know that—

David Brownstein, MD: I saw that.

Cathy Meehan: —we’ve been working for over 10 years since Vaxxed came out to change the vaccination schedule and reduce that. It’s like, just—and it’s January of 2026. What I see has happened over the last year. I mean, I’m just like so excited. We’ve like changed the vaccination schedules. We’ve, you know, turned the pyramid upside down. It’s like, it was great. It was great. And have you seen—

David Brownstein, MD: This was a good week. This was a good week in holistic medicine.

Cathy Meehan: The Inconvenient Study, the documentary from the Henry Ford Center, I mean, showing the vax versus unvax, it’s like, it’s such a great—I love 2026 right now because we have just started this momentum and this tidal wave and it’s—I don’t think it can be stopped now. I mean, and I don’t wanna stop until everybody’s healthy and stops listening to the government.

David Brownstein, MD: You know, if you think about it, the number of people across the United States, 350 million people—you know, we’ve grown since we had the open borders by 20 million, but 350 million people—30% of us didn’t get any vaccines for COVID. That means 70% did. So the reason they were able to do this is there were only 25, 30% of us, or maybe even a little less, that were really trying to give a contrary opinion to what the government or big pharma or big medicine was saying, you know, is true. And I said when those vaccines rolled out that they have made a huge mistake when they mandated them because if they didn’t mandate them, I bet they would have had close to 70% of people get that vaccine, maybe a teeny bit less, maybe instead of 70%, 65%. The mandates—the only people… Out of my patients, my patient population, estimate about 90% were unvaccinated. 10% were vaccinated. The vast majority of those 10% were forced by employers, travel—they wanted to travel—or family members. And very few of my patients took it because they wanted it because I was lecturing on it, I was blogging about it and I was writing about it. So. The big pharma went from this captured audience of kids, especially who were getting two, four and six months, 12 months, 15 months, 18 months. Every time they’re going to the pediatrician, they’re getting all those vaccines and people weren’t questioning anything. They were just doing it. I mean, it was—there were a few of us writing about it and questioning it, but we were in the minority and no one—no one was listening. And it was like yelling into the wind, you know, a loud windstorm. And when they did this COVID thing and they lied about it, and they got caught lying. And now with the internet, being able to put things out there and with a bad COVID vaccine that injured a lot of people and caused cancer increases and death increases and autoimmune increases amongst other things, people finally started asking questions. Hey, what about this? And now they’ve morphed back into asking about childhood vaccines and what about this? And so I agree with you, it’s not going away. And they overstepped. And they’re gonna pay the price for that.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, they are. They are. I just—I just hope, you know, whenever the next pandemic comes, let’s see how that goes. I just don’t—

David Brownstein, MD: That’s a good thing. Well, the next pandemic comes and it’s coming. I know that’s coming. I find it hard to believe they’re gonna be able to mandate a vaccine. I really find that hard to believe. If they were smart, they would present the data in the most positive light they can present it and try and convince us to do it. But they proven they’re not so smart. So we’ll see what happens.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, we’ll see what happens. So, but in the meantime, we just have to encourage everybody to, know, don’t—don’t—you know, accept everything that you’re told and, you know, try to—try to dig in a little bit more and find some research or find a good functional medicine provider that’s going to really give you risk benefits and alternatives of—of anything that you’ve got. So sorry, we got off on that tangent on all those exciting things that are happening. And, but—and I appreciate you taking so much time to help us out. But so let’s jump back onto salts. And so we can kind of wrap that up for anybody wanting to know information as far as the fact that salts actually are a way to health and—and to—I recommend, you know, buying a book, specifically one that you’ve written and so that they can have that at their fingertips whenever they do have questions about it. And not only that, but share it with family members. I actually ordered your newer book to give to my friend to pass on to his mom so that maybe she could do a little bit of research on her own and maybe even show it to her own physician. I don’t know. Let’s—

David Brownstein, MD: It’s an incredibly interesting concept. You know, I have—what I—what I saw during COVID was the people that went to the hospital went for—for—for one—there was one major—two major reasons people went to the hospital during COVID. One, they couldn’t breathe and two, they were dehydrated and they usually go along together. So if you show up at the hospital in that situation dehydrated, plus or minus, not breathing. And look, you got the—we’re in flu season now. I don’t know about you guys, flu has just rampaged. Wow.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, there’s something definitely going around down here.

David Brownstein, MD: So we do a lot of IVs to hydrate people. What do you hydrate people with? Salt. And you go to the ER and you’re dehydrated, you better get fluid because you’re going to die. The largest portion of the human body is water. 70% of the body is water, 80% of the brain is water. The second major constituent of the human body next to water is salt. These are crucial things. Your whole circulatory system depends on having an adequate volume of fluid and having salt to be able to maintain that balance between in the cells and outside the cells. So salt’s very crucial. You know, I always tell people, you know, the basics. I do the basics. You don’t need fancy peptide therapies and, you know… growth hormone, expensive things, stem cells and all this stuff for the vast majority of cases. But you got to do the basics and the basics include hydration, salt, eating good food, exercise, and iodine is the fifth basic that I would say. These are the five basics that people should focus on to achieve their optimal health.

Cathy Meehan: Right, right. And it’s not that complicated, really, if you stick with those basics and, you know, come up with that routine. And it does include exercise and getting out and eating healthy and doing all the… And you just got to make that part of your lifestyle. I—I just went through a 90-day transformation because I’d gotten a little too stressed out. And so I actually hired a personal trainer. Went through a whole new exercise program and nutrition program, because I was already eating pretty healthy, what I would call healthy, but they were also healthy processed foods in there too. So completely cleaned up my diet and just gradually changed my lifestyle, added in the exercise six days a week and changed my eating habits and more hydration. Actually, and I added salt, more salt. I was already doing salt, but I added more salt to my diet. I have never felt better, never ever ever. And so, and I just—I recommend people just go to the basics and it will transform your health. Absolutely. It really will. It’s been great. It’s been great. Well, Dr. Brownstein, if anybody needed to get more information from you, do you have a special website or someplace for them to visit you?

David Brownstein, MD: So our books aren’t on Amazon. Got mad at them a long time ago. And we keep—my wife and I are the dog and pony show of that. It’s at my website, www.drbrownstein.com. And it’s just her and I. And we’ve done this for close to 30 years now. And we’re having a good time doing it.

Cathy Meehan: I think that’s great. Well, we want to support you so that you can continue to push out more material for people. Do you have any ideas for another book?

David Brownstein, MD: There’s a few ideas in here, you know, it’s—I figured out why musicians write most of their songs when they’re young. There’s just a bigger drive and more energy or something there. Like I have—as I’ve gotten older, it was harder. I—I’m still seeing patients. Still have the energy. I still feel like I have the energy. I felt like I was 30 years old. The energy is not the issue. It’s just—I don’t know what it is. I’m just not writing. I write a newsletter and I write a national newsletter for Newsmax called Dr. Brownstein’s Natural Way to Health. So that takes up some of my time, but I was writing books even when I was doing that. But there was a couple of books up there. They just have to percolate enough and come out. You know, my last book I wrote—holistic approach to viruses during COVID because I got irritated, you know, about the whole nonsense that was happening during COVID. So something has to really get me irritated or get me excited and you know, there’ll be others.

Cathy Meehan: Yeah, we’ll just wait and see. That’s what we’ll do. And I have a feeling we’ll see you in a few more weeks or months and we’ll have you back on the Me Hand Mission podcast because I love having you on. You’re such a wealth of knowledge and I appreciate you so, very much. Thank you for coming on. Thanks. Bye bye.

David Brownstein, MD: Me too. Thanks for having me.

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