Cathy Meehan: Today’s conversation on the Meehan Mission podcast, we are gonna focus on the root of health, which is our food system. I’m joined by Mollie Engelhart. She is the founder of Sovereignty Ranch. This is a regenerative farm in Texas that really focuses on the connection of how our food is grown, how that food nourishes our body.
and how good food really impacts our overall wellness. Mollie has been in the real food industry for years where her family had a very successful vegan chain of restaurants in California.
but Mollie’s critical thinking skills actually led her to regenerative farming. So now in Texas where they support regenerative agriculture, they also focus on helping people understand where their food comes from. So we know the truth behind good health is good food. So I’m so excited to introduce you all to Mollie. Let’s welcome her to the show.
Cathy Meehan: Well, hello everyone and welcome to the Meehan Mission podcast. My guest today is Mollie Engelhart and she is the founder of Sovereignty Ranch. I am so excited to have you here today, Mollie. Thank you for joining us.
Mollie Engelhart: Thank you so much for having me. And we had different times trying to get this done, but today is the day that we’re getting it done.
Cathy Meehan: Absolutely. So let’s start because you know really the root of our health really is I think it starts with our food and our nutrition and I know that you have had this incredible journey of restaurants to regenerative farming. So if you want to just maybe start you know California to Texas how did it happen?
Mollie Engelhart: So I am most well known for being a vegan chef in Los Angeles. I had five very well known vegan restaurants in LA. I was super committed to environmentalism. I had been indoctrinated with the idea that vegan food was the way forward. I was raised in a no meat household. My mom is still vegetarian to this day. And so I was really passionate about the environment. And in 2013, my brother came home from New Zealand and he had listened to Graeme Sait at this conference. And he just was totally inspired about regenerative agriculture when he got home. And regenerative agriculture was not a thing. It wasn’t like, I mean, it was a thing, but it wasn’t something that people knew this term. It was like, there was organic and conventional, but nobody knew about regenerative.
And it was an aha moment for my brother and he started Kiss the Ground and has subsequently made a bunch of films and a nonprofit, blah, blah, blah. But so I got really inspired through my brother about regenerative agriculture. And I wasn’t ready to give up the idea of veganism yet, but I was like inspired. And so I started trying to convince every customer that would come into the restaurant. Hey, you know what, you should have a farm and I’ll bring all the compost from the restaurant. It’s gonna be awesome. We’re gonna make humus. It’s like soil. It’s really important. Microbiology, human health. And I’m like trying to explain it to every customer. And it’d be like, Courtney Love or the Clippers coach or some, anyway, I thought they had the money to do it. I would try to convince. And they were just, you know, customers like, yeah, I’m trying to eat my food. Thank you for your ideas. So I realized like I had to do it myself. And so,
through a whole journey, it took from 2013 to 2018 to really buy a farm, save up, find a place, all the stuff. And then through a habit, I’m going to have this vegan farm. I’m going to do vegan regenerative agriculture. I’m going to be the first one. I quickly realized that nature doesn’t have any veganism. It doesn’t even exist. Life and death are constantly cycling.
And we can’t make dietary choices that move us away from God’s design. And God’s design just started becoming more and more present to me and through, where does our fertilizer? Organic fertilizer comes out of the consolidated feedlot system out of animals that are filled with antibiotics and feed that’s filled with glyphosate. And I’m wondering, what have I been committed to? It doesn’t make any sense. And so I start, but I’m terrified of the vegans because they are the original cancel culture. And so I’m secretly feeding, start feeding my kids raw cow’s milk and I don’t let anybody come to my farm. Cause I don’t want them to know that we have all these animals or that my husband eats animals or anything, right? And so the secret life of Mollie, the secret life of me.
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Cathy Meehan: The secret life of Mollie Engelhart.
Mollie Engelhart: And then COVID started happening and there was all these other lies similar to the lie about veganism being the best, best thing for the planet. Environmentalism that we are a plague, a pestilence. We are the problem on the planet. And I just started to see, I’d already woken up about veganism and environmentalism, but, and I had never been vaccinated. So there wasn’t a chance anywhere that I was going to take the COVID experimental gene therapy and I had known about this kind of gene therapy because my best friend died in 2018 of cancer and she was actually trying to get in a trial that used this same kind of gene therapy for attacking specific cancers. So I knew that this was not a vaccine, this technology that it was, and she died, she did not get in that study. But there wasn’t a chance in the world that I was gonna take that vaccine.
Mollie Engelhart: And all these friends that I had that drove Teslas and had homeschooled their kids so they didn’t have to get vaccinated and ate all organic food. When it came to like, I’m not going to be able to go on a cruise or I’m not going to be able to go to Mexico or I’m not going to be able to go to the wedding I want to go. People just bent and I was so confused. And I said, wow, nobody
Cathy Meehan: mmm
Mollie Engelhart: Like if shit hits the fan, I’m going to look to the left and look to the right and nobody here in California is going to be willing to fight. This is crazy. These are people that purported to be anti-vaxxers and then it’s like, but I really wanted to go to this place. I really wanted to go to this wedding. I really wanted to go to the ski trip. And I was so blown away by people’s moral standards or what they believe.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: is only that they believe it until the discomfort of believing it is too hard to maintain. And I realized, wow. And then I started to realize, well, but that’s kind of the same with this whole transgender thing. And people are telling me like, you have to call me this. And you disrespect me because I’m a them and they, and you said she. And I’m realizing, well.
Cathy Meehan: Very true.
Mollie Engelhart: No, like there’s things that just exist. And then the George Floyd thing happened. And I’m like, so race is binary and real and gender is fluid. That makes no sense to me. You’ve never seen a mammal care what color their children is except for, or their neighbor is except for humans. Like you’ve never seen a goat be like, I’m brown and my baby came out gray. How is that possible?
Cathy Meehan: Right.
Cathy Meehan: That’s a good point. Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: What is the thing? And you never see that. And so this idea of race was totally obviously a construct to divide us. And then you look and I have a beef-on-dairy herd. So I have a beef bull on dairy moms. Now, if I take the bull out of the herd, they’ll jump on each other. They’ll lick each other. They’ll let me know that they’re in heat, but no babies come. So
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm. Right, you need that. You need that bull. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right, which, again, comes from a bull. Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: You need that. You need that bull or you need AI, artificial insemination, not artificial intelligence. Again, comes from a bull, but there’s not this idea. Actually, gender or sex is binary and race is not. So I just start looking. Nature is showing me everything very clear. God is expressing constantly perfection through nature. And we are making these stories that are only possible. Veganism. Like if you don’t eat meat, you’re saving animals. Like, no, it’s not, that’s not true. There’s thousands of animals killed. There’s blood meal, bone meal, feather meal to grow that food. None of that is true. But I was indoctrinated to believe that the environmental, you are pestilence on the planet. No, we belong here. We are the keystone species. We have a role. Actually God’s first request of us was to tend to the garden. And so no.
Cathy Meehan: Yes!
Mollie Engelhart: you’re wrong. And so I just started to realize that we were going totally against God and we were doing it under the guise of kindness, respect and morality and like some kind of moral high ground. But it was a lie. Everything from my diet to what I was being forced to believe. And so through that, I started to talk to people like, well, obviously
Cathy Meehan: What a wake up call.
Mollie Engelhart: this girl wants to sue me because I called her she. And it’s literally like that. I’m not disrespectful. I was like, she did such a great job on, this is a real story. She did such a great job on the chalkboards today. They look beautiful. She’s made the request that we refer to her as them and they, she feels disrespected. She’s talking to a lawyer and it’s like, I don’t, I don’t know how that’s just bad English. And I also, however she feels on the inside has little to no relevance. If I’m feeling really sad or whatever one day, I cannot expect people to address me differently because how I’m feeling on the inside, this is however we’re dealing with the kingdom of heaven that is within, that is our job to work on and bring closer to God and continue to take our compass true north to the one true creator. That’s our job.
And we can’t expect other people in the outer world to respond differently to us based on where our compass is pointing in that day. And I just said, I don’t want to raise my children here. I don’t want to raise my children in a place where people are going to sue me for making a compliment about how great they did the chalkboards. And I just wasn’t interested in that.
And I wasn’t interested in my children being confused about kids say things and you can cultivate any ideas in your children that you want. And I know this because my kids care about regenerative agriculture. My kids will tell each other, no, you can’t buy that. It has seed oils. It’s not organic. they know, and I’ve indoctrinated with that. I’ve indoctrinated them to believe that seed oils are bad.
Cathy Meehan: No, no, that’s good that you…
Cathy Meehan: Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: and organic is better than conventional. And that, and they’ll tell their dad and their dad was like, I don’t care. Dad, you’re buying cherries that aren’t organic. I don’t care. And they’re like, mom’s going to be mad. Don’t we’re not. And they won’t eat them. So I’ve indoctrinated my children to believe that the other day, my three year old says to me, mom, I wish I had a penis so I could pee standing up. It would be more convenient, but you’re a girl. You were born with a vagina. You got to squat down to pee. Or if you’re outside and you have no pants on at a pond or something you could probably be standing up. But that’s that’s that. Now if I was a different kind of parent, I might be like, well, what what does that mean? Do you feel like you wish you had? No, she’s just seeing her brothers get to stand up and pee. And once that is nothing is not there’s nothing to cultivate. They’re normal and you have every right to teach your children what you want to teach them. And you know, I love that.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Cathy Meehan: Stand up! Yeah.
Cathy Meehan: No.
Cathy Meehan: That’s a normal childhood. That is normal. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And you have every right to teach your children what you want to teach them. And, you know, I love that you are open-minded enough to see what all was going on, actually think critically, and then raise your children differently. And I’m so glad that you got to do that because what you’re doing now is you’re even taking that and educating people with Sovereignty Ranch, which is amazing.
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Mollie Engelhart: But we have to be critical thinkers. We have to see. I mean, I don’t know when this is coming out, but today is, I have no idea what the outcome with Thomas Massie will be.
Mollie Engelhart: But everybody calling Thomas Massie a traitor. I’m like, this is crazy. he, yeah, he doesn’t vote along party lines every single time. If he has a moral objection or has made a promise that this doesn’t align with, we should all want so much from our statesmen. We don’t even have statesmen anymore, but we should all want that we vote with our morals. And we’re not like, well it’s politically inconvenient for me to keep my stand that
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mollie Engelhart: we shouldn’t have only four big meatpackers. And you know, he’s been fighting against this for the longest. He’s fighting against the data centers. He’s fighting, you know, and everybody wants to think that he’s a national treasure as far as I’m concerned, but I don’t know how today’s gonna go. I pray that he wins. But the idea that people can’t critically think it’s like Trump said he’s bad. I like Trump, so he must be bad. And that’s just like not how life works.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
Mollie Engelhart: The same, there’s a guy in my, in Texas, Chip Roy, that’s not endorsed by Trump. And everybody’s like, you know, he’s not. I was like, uh-huh, I do. I I watched during COVID where he stood for not being locked down. He stood for not injecting babies. He stood for these things. So I say that morally, he stood up to the things that are important to him. And that is to me more important. But, it’s with everything we have to…
Cathy Meehan: That’s okay.
Mollie Engelhart: be, we’re all being fed now in the craziest way, algorithms. And I was talking to my friend, Alec Zeck, who has The Way Forward. And he was telling me that him and his friend were just having this conversation is like, what fear scroll are you being fed? Cause we’re all being fed. Cause fear is something that can be harvested and can be utilized for division. And so is it the fear scroll of the, what is it? The
Cathy Meehan: those.
Mollie Engelhart: virus. I don’t know what this virus is. Is it the hantavirus fear scroll? Is it the Middle East collapse, the Strait of Hormuz? There’s not going to be any more oil. Is it AI? The AI data centers are going to take over and it’s going to be like Terminator and there’s going to be no humanity. But like we’re all being fed some fear scroll. Is it that the Trump MAGA is there, they’re bad racist, blah, blah. Is it that the Democrats
Cathy Meehan: the hantavirus
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, get out of those. Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: MAHA’s falling apart, you’re transgender, Democrats are going to transgender all your kids, like on and on, right? There’s just some fear scroll that, and, it’s designed based on your response rate. And so critical thinking is so much more important than it’s ever been before, because in the past you got exposed to these different ideas. And now literally you’re only exposed to ideas they think you’re going to engage with. And
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Mollie Engelhart: Usually fear is a good motivator to get us or disagreement. Anger is a good motivator.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm. Right. And to make you, it makes you think that everybody thinks the same. And that is not true. I mean, yes, I’m so glad to hear that you’re a critical thinker because I talk about that all the time about when people are looking for pediatricians or doctors, you don’t want your normal mainstream because they are like disease management by the book.
throw out a prescription, you want the critical thinking, functional medicine, the medical freedom ones. But we just don’t have enough critical thinkers in every industry, in every industry. Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: Of course. But without critical thinking we are sleepwalking into a future that we’re not in control of and I mean we’re never in control of anything, but we do need to start to take back our power and the only way to take back our power is to critically think to know I believe this and then, actually this thing makes more sense. I believed veganism was best for the environment. Now I believe regenerative agriculture is best for the environment. I am willing to change my mind publicly through much scrutiny, much anger. People threatened to kill my children, wished that I was dead, wished I had cancer, blah, blah, blah, blah, That you’re willing to say, but this makes more sense. And we all have to be willing to believe things even if they are inconvenient.
Cathy Meehan: Yes.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: for our financial well-being, for our friends, for whatever. And that’s hard because we all create these bonds over certain belief systems. And it happens in all communities. It happens in freedom communities. It happens in anything. And then it’s like, I mean, you could go into a militia community and they’re like, well, these people think they’re a militia, but they’re not working out or exercising. They’re just shooting their guns. So honestly, they’re not prepared.
Cathy Meehan: Okay.
Mollie Engelhart: And then they’re arguing, right? And you could go into a freedom community and they’re like, well, those people are flat earthers over there. And those people are no virus theory. And those people are terrain and virus. And you know, we just love to divide ourselves. And the thing is, I always say, you don’t gotta agree with people you love. You gotta love people that you don’t agree with. But we have to be willing to disagree. We have to be willing to express our feelings.
Cathy Meehan: Ha ha!
Mollie Engelhart: And the way that social media and X and Instagram and Facebook and all these things, they’ve made it where you honestly are just in a feedback loop of what agrees with you and or what definitely doesn’t agree with you. So you can be mad at it, but we don’t get to have just normal dinner conversations where it’s like, well, my thoughts are this and my thoughts are this. And so I think it’s very important for us to have disagreements, get along, work it out. And I was just-
Cathy Meehan: Have the conversations.
Mollie Engelhart: Have the conversations. And I don’t agree with you. And it’s okay. I just had a conversation with someone the other day. They said my mother was a witch. And I said, I hear you. I get, like from your perspective, that the way my mother worships is not worship. And I hear you. I don’t think my mother’s a witch. I don’t think I’m under her spell.
Cathy Meehan: It is.
Mollie Engelhart: But thank you so much for sharing and thank you for your commitment to God and that you’re so committed that you’re like safeguarding or wanting to make sure that I’m not under a spell and consider that the Christ that I know and love never asked for us to measure other people’s commitment to God.
Cathy Meehan: That’s great.
Mollie Engelhart: But I’m not going to get mad. They said my mom was a witch. No, no.
Cathy Meehan: No, no, and you shouldn’t get mad at that.
Mollie Engelhart: It doesn’t, it’s not gonna make any difference in the moment. You can’t fight someone’s ideas. But if you just accept what they’re saying, share our love back to them, see the little piece of God that’s in all of us, and then they are in a space that they can maybe hear a different idea. But when you dig in, when you’re like, you’re wrong, you’re bad, you’re this.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Mollie Engelhart: then it’s unlikely they can hear you. But you’re saying, thank you for sharing. I don’t, that’s not my experience. And I appreciate that you love God so much that you’re protecting me and all of that. And thank you for letting me know. Then there’s nothing for them to push up against like, she thinks she agrees with her mom. She doesn’t agree with us. She’s not saved enough, you know?
Cathy Meehan: Right, right.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, you’ll never open up those lines of communication so that you can even give them more information because they won’t even hear you no matter what you’re talking about. And we’ll pivot back to veganism versus people that eat meat. I mean, if you don’t have that critical thinking skill or the ability to converse with people, you’re right. They just cut you off, which is exactly what they did to you. Right? They just cut you off when you had any other idea besides veganism.
Mollie Engelhart: Yes. And it didn’t matter how many vegan meals I had served. It didn’t matter how much we had rescued people that I’d rescued dogs with, that I’d donated to their dog rescues, that I’d driven miles to go pick up dogs for, are like, she’s a murdering bitch. And I was like, wow. Okay, great. Wow.
Cathy Meehan: Thank you. That means you’re doing something right.
Mollie Engelhart: But I think I was like, wow, I actually see that you only have one thing that matters to you. Got it. You know, and that’s that’s that. yeah.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. How did you decide to really like break out and go full force regenerative farming? I mean, because we can talk about like soil depletion, no more nutrients, all those other things. But what was that transition like?
Mollie Engelhart: Well, when I bought the farm in California, I started farming and was trying to do it without animals and realized that you need animals to really make it work. And so.
And then we bought this farm and I was trying to maintain both of them. That became impossible with the pandemic and I had to make a choice and we moved here. And here in central Texas, the soil is highly alkaline and highly depleted. And it’s a much harder journey than what I was doing in California. And, but I can see the progress and what I love about regenerative agriculture.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Mollie Engelhart: is not just the nutrient density, not just like the rebuilding, but how fast it happens. We’re not talking about something for my great grandchildren. We’re talking for my children right now in the next two to three, four five years. It makes a difference so quickly. And I think that people don’t totally understand that, that this is like an instant thing. This is not like if we drive a hybrid in 2020, in 2080, there’ll be a slightly less carbon and the degrees of
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that’s great.
Mollie Engelhart: CO2, it’s that, it’s not that. It’s like literally, it wasn’t growing food last year, this year it’s growing food after doing these practices. You can see right in front of you what’s happening.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, that’s good.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, just running the animals through changes the landscape. I mean, we saw that with our tiny farm that we have up here in Oklahoma. We’ve been there for three years now and after having cows and chickens and horses and pigs, I mean, the grass is greener. I mean, it’s just crazy what grows now.
Mollie Engelhart: Oh yeah. And the pigs bring tons of fertility. The pigs have so much fertility to offer.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah, I absolutely love it. So tell us a little bit about Sovereignty Ranch because I am dying to go down there. I’ve seen you even have little Airbnbs and everything. So what does somebody expect?
Cathy Meehan: I’m coming. I’m going to come down and bring some people.
Mollie Engelhart: You should do some sort of, you should do a retreat or something for your people. We have 40 beds of hospitality at different price ranges. And we have a restaurant. We have a conference center. It’s like a barn transitioned into a conference center. We have a main stage on the field with 4,000 square feet of shade over it and the restaurant. And then we have a yurt for breakouts or for smaller groups and stuff like that. So we do everything from weddings to, and conferences, small festivals.
Cathy Meehan: Wow.
Mollie Engelhart: pumpkin patch and Renaissance fair to church retreats, couples retreats, yoga retreats. We do chiropractic or like continued learning for osteopaths or chiropractic. So any kind of thing that people want to do, we’re your great venue. And a lot of times you’ll go to these events, right? And you’re at a hotel or something and everybody’s all inspired talking about your health, talking about regenerative agriculture. And then they’re going to serve.
Mollie Engelhart: dry chicken, Caesar salad, and Uncle Ben’s rice that came off of a Sysco truck for lunch. And it’s like healthier than whatever, I don’t know. But you’re not really doing the work. And so here, we’re having talks about healthy food, and then you’re gonna go to the restaurant and be served food on the land. You’re gonna see the cows moved where they were yesterday, where they are tomorrow.
you’re going to see all that. You’re going to see the goats. You’re going to see the sheep. You’re going to see the chickens pecking around and free. And so then your understanding and your body is not just having the mental, you’re eating this food is better for you. You’re actually having the physical experience of it as well. And so, we have no seed oils in our restaurant. We fry everything in tallow and then on the grill, use ghee or olive oil in salad dressings and stuff like that.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Cathy Meehan: Hmm.
Cathy Meehan: Have you been really surprised at how much people don’t know about their food and ingredients?
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Mollie Engelhart: That was one of my big culture shocks moving to Texas, to be honest. In California, there’s a big awareness around food. are super, and now people don’t all agree, but there’s a lot of commitment to very specific diets.
Mollie Engelhart: I didn’t even know grownups drank soda or smoked cigarettes really. Like in California, it’s really only young people or very old people. But in Los Angeles, I rarely saw adults and I never saw like an adult drinking like a Big Gulp, like from the gas station, except for this one guy, Tim, that I knew. I knew this one guy, Tim, that did it, but I was always like, I can’t believe. But I…
Cathy Meehan: I
The big old huge Mountain Dews.
Mollie Engelhart: It’s just totally normal here in Texas for adults to smoke cigarettes and drink Big Gulps. And I don’t even think cigarettes are like that bad for you, the, you know, like the ones with all the Newports and all the stuff in them. but I mean, it’s just, just, California is so health conscious and I got to Texas and I was literally like, this is, this is crazy. and so he’ll walk out of my restaurant.
Cathy Meehan: Mm-hmm.
Mollie Engelhart: You don’t have soda? I’m like, no, we don’t have soda. I don’t serve anything with corn syrup in the whole restaurant. But no, it’s not no Dr. Pepper. It’s Texas. I’m like, no, no Dr. Pepper. And we have iced tea and we have hibiscus iced tea and we have farm iced tea with herbs from the farm and we make fresh squeezed lemonade. And it’s not like we have no sugary drinks, but we don’t. It’s all organic and whatever.
Cathy Meehan: No.
Cathy Meehan: No, no. Teas? Probably have tea maybe? Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: But people are just surprised about that. And so I was just surprised about the culture around food in Texas compared to California, where I just have lived there and I lived in upstate New York in Ithaca, which is a very progressive food town. I had a natural food co-op since I was five years old. I, I mean, I remember, so I, I just have been around and in the
Cathy Meehan: Okay, you’ve been about it forever.
Mollie Engelhart: sphere of healthy food that I had, I actually didn’t know that there was this much difference between what it was and what it was. But yeah, there’s the little grocery store in the town that I live in.
There’s almost nothing that I eat would eat there, but they’ve just started to, per my request, they’re bringing in organic strawberries, organic romaine lettuce. cause we run out of those things like a lot and we run to water run to be to run and go get them there. I drink bubbly water, but literally there’s barely anything in that store that’s organic. There’s it’s just, we don’t buy eggs, but I do think they have organic eggs there, but maybe there’s five things in that whole store that I would eat.
Cathy Meehan: and you need them.
Mollie Engelhart: And H-E-B has more options and certain ones have more than others for sure. But it’s nothing like, I lived in a tiny, small agricultural town in California and it’s like 30 % organic in the grocery store. So it’s, was a very big shock to me.
Cathy Meehan: that was it yeah yeah we have we have a long way to go when it comes to that but why do think people don’t take their food more seriously?
Cathy Meehan: Yeah.
Mollie Engelhart: Comfort.
Mollie Engelhart: I think comfort is the root of all evil. I think that we are addicted to having things be easy and cheap. And we’re not interested in anything that’s going to take work or effort to move away from easy and cheap. so… I don’t know. I think that the real problem…
Cathy Meehan: Okay, well Mollie, let’s do this. I know you have a hard stop. And it was great talking to you. Like I said, I know you have a hard stop and I appreciate you coming on. And we didn’t get to talk about your book, Debunked by Nature, but I will be sure to put that in the notes and get that up there. And I would love to continue this conversation another time.
Mollie Engelhart: Yes ma’am. It was great talking to you.
Cathy Meehan: I think I’m going to come visit you.
Cathy Meehan: We’ll do a live.
Mollie Engelhart: Let’s come and we can do it live right here in my podcast studio. We’ll record maybe one for my podcast and one for your podcast here live in Sovereignty Ranch in Central Texas.
Cathy Meehan: We’ll do that. I will see you at Will Harris’s down at White Oak Pastures in Georgia and we had a great time so I’m going to come visit you too. Okay, thanks Mollie.
Mollie Engelhart: Excellent. I love that. Thank you so much and I’m sorry about my internet. I don’t know what happened there but thank you so much. Rural living.
Cathy Meehan: no problem. You bet. Have a blessed day. Thank you. Bye. Okay.
Mollie Engelhart: You too. Bye bye.
