On today’s episode of the Meehan Mission podcast, we’re talking about SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome. Now, I know this is a scary topic for parents and especially when we’re told by pediatricians and other scientists that we don’t know what causes it. Well, is that the truth? I don’t think so.
Today’s guest is Nic Hulscher with the McCullough Foundation. And this organization challenges science, brings us science, and puts the topics on the table that we need to discuss. So, please share this podcast with other fellow parents and friends that are seeking the truth.
Cathy Meehan: Hello everyone and welcome to this episode of the Meehan Mission Podcast. I am just thrilled to bring you all Nic Hulscher with the McCullough Foundation. Nic, thank you for joining us today.
Nic Hulscher: Thanks for having me.
Cathy Meehan: You bet. I just want to let our listeners know if they need a resource, a place to go or information, I highly, highly recommend that they subscribe to the Focal Points newsletter. I mean, constantly you guys are pushing out material and these are the conversations that we really need to have because you guys are really bringing science back in to, you know, really expose some of the corruption in the medical industry and I really appreciate that so very much. So, thank you.
Now, that being said, Nic, you all have so much material. I was like, what are we going to talk about? And I know near and dear to my heart is SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome. I have friends and acquaintances especially that we’ve met over the years of fighting for medical freedom that have actually lost their child shortly after vaccinations. It was labeled and diagnosed as SIDS. So I want to talk about that, but I also wanted to bring you on because the work that you guys have done on the determinants of autism spectrum disorder. I just wanted to touch on that first because that work that you all did really has catapulted the conversation more. So can you just give our listeners a brief overview of that work?
Nic Hulscher: Definitely. Definitely. Well, so basically what we did in that determinants of autism spectrum disorder report was we scavenged the entire peer-reviewed literature on every single possible cause of autism. You know, what could be contributing the most. And so we found about nine factors. We found there was over 300 studies included in this report. And among the factors contributing to autism appear to be, you know, older parents, siblings with autism, environmental exposures.
So, you know, heavy metals, even if you live near a factory appeared to be associated, as well as pesticide exposure and especially even living in areas that spray high levels of pesticides, as well as direct animal studies where pregnant rats are given glyphosate and the children have autism-like behaviors. So things like that, in-utero drug exposures. So if the pregnant mother is taking, you know, antipsychotics or anti-seizure medications or SSRIs, SNRIs or what are called these anti-depressants during pregnancy, it is also linked to autism.
And so you have all of that stuff and you know you have maternal immune activation. So basically, you know, if the mother gets very sick and has a high fever, this can impact fetal neural development. And then there’s a few other things: the gut microbiome. So gut-brain axis disruptions appear to be very, very important in the link to autism. Usually most children with autism do have very dysregulated gut functioning.
Then we got to vaccines and the evidence was undeniable. We found 136 vaccine-related studies, but 107 of them—so, you know, over 70% of these studies—indicated a positive association between vaccines and autism or neurodevelopmental disorders. So a vast majority when they look, you know, there is that association. There were 12 vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies and every single one found the same thing where vaccinated children have far higher risks of autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders: ADHD, tics, speech delays, and learning disabilities.
So that was undeniable. And then the studies that claimed there was no association were riddled with fatal flaws. But first and foremost, there was no real control group. No unvaccinated control group. So you cannot possibly derive an accurate risk estimate with no control group.

And then when looking at all this evidence—and you’ll see it in the figure, the primary figure of this report—nothing else could explain the drastic rise in autism since the 80s other than the propagation of the vaccination schedule, which went from, you know, about just 7 to 10 doses in the 60s and 70s, then up to 72 doses by age 18 last year. None of them were tested in long-term placebo-control trials first of all, but a vast majority were never tested for autism. Only MMR was, and you know, a few others, but I mean none of the vaccines given before 6 months were tested for autism. And so yeah, it was undeniable that appears because every child is getting vaccinations, large amounts of them. It is the—and we concluded that it is the most significant modifiable risk factor for autism. And what that means is the biggest exposure that you can actually prevent and change would be the vaccinations.
Cathy Meehan: Yeah. I mean, that makes total sense. I mean, I think we’ve all seen the chart where the increase in the number of doses and the increase in the number of autism cases—it literally parallels right up the chart for the first two years of life. And you’re right, it was after the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act where pharmaceutical companies, I mean, they created cash cows for the pharmaceutical industries. They didn’t have to prove safety.
And you know that brings us into: but Nic, vaccines are safe and effective, right? I mean that’s what we all know, that you go to your pediatrician, vaccines are safe and effective. But what I have always found alarming is SIDS. Now, how does SIDS come into the factor of vaccines are safe and effective? I always say, you know, my husband Jim, he always would speak out against vaccinations. And one of his quotes was, “SIDS is not a mystery, it’s a vaccine injury.”
And you know, for years there’s been speculation, there’s been talk about nobody really does the science, but in one of my Focal Point newsletters that I got, and this was in June of 25, so we’re talking last year, I was like, I love this because it was the “Vaccines may trigger sudden infant death syndrome via brain stem failure.” And it specifically talks about the cytochrome P450 enzyme. And so I was hoping that you would give us a little walk-through of this and explain to our parents and our listeners why this enzyme is so important and especially in infants and premature infants, why the liver is so important in detoxification and how that could lead to sudden infant death syndrome.
Nic Hulscher: Yes. Yes. This is very important and yes sudden infant deaths are very serious and they’re not supposed to happen but they are happening. So yeah, the cytochrome P450 enzymes—this group of enzymes is very, very critical for your body to detoxify toxins basically or what’s called xenobiotics, you know, things that aren’t supposed to be in the body. And so if you don’t have the normal levels of those enzymes, you won’t be able to clear out things, you know, such as Tylenol or things such as even anti-depressants. You take those drugs, you know, that’s how your body detoxifies them. So, if you don’t have them, you know, you’re going to get liver damage or liver failure. And so, that’s how essential they are. And so, that’s why you see Tylenol overdoses. They take too many, you deplete those enzymes, and then you have no protection and unfortunately, you may die.
And so that’s so yeah very critical. So but in infants they have underdeveloped cytochrome P450 enzyme systems. They don’t have as many as an adult would or even a three, four, or five-year-old would. And so because of that it’s not a good decision to expose them to large numbers of toxins. And so a paper by Goldman and Chun has drawn up a completely coherent mechanistic hypothesis that may be explaining the sudden infant death syndrome after a battery of vaccines where they have the underdeveloped detoxification system. You inject them with—sometimes they get up to seven, even eight vaccines at once at some of these clinics. Very disturbing.
And so you load them up with that and their already underdeveloped detox systems will literally collapse. You inject that much at one time, it’s going to go way down. They’ll have no protection. And as that protection decreases, all of the excipients and vaccine ingredients and antigens, they’re just going to start to circulate in the body unchecked and they’re going to reach the brain.
And they hypothesized in this study that, you know, they get into the central nervous system in the brain, it can start to cause neuroinflammation, severe neuroinflammation, and interfere with literal respiration or, you know, the body’s ability to regulate how to breathe in the brain stem. And this appears to be the central mechanism behind, you know, infants are sleeping and then all of a sudden the parents go in the room and they’re dead. It appears they do die in their sleep often. Likely because of this brain stem damage from all of these toxins because they have no detox system and unfortunately, yeah, their bodies cannot tell them how to breathe properly during sleep and they suffer a death.
Unfortunately, and this is one more thing that’s important about this is it is real. And there was a recent study by Miller in 2021 that looked in the VAERS system and found there were over 2,000 sudden infant death syndrome cases in the US since the 90s. And that’s underreported. VAERS is very underreported. So, you know, you multiply that by way more. It’s probably over 20, 30,000 sudden infant death syndrome cases and over 70% of them occur within a week of the vaccine. So, we know it’s happening. We now have the mechanism that explains why it happens and yeah, we got to do something about it.
Cathy Meehan: Right! So, that was a lot of information. I love it. So, a couple of things. You talked about the ingredients in vaccines because a lot of people are still not familiar with some of like the excipients that they use. And is it true or not? There’s things like aluminum, there’s polysorbate 80, there’s just all of these added ingredients, right, that you’re right, if they’re building up in the system and this little baby infant doesn’t have the capacity or the ability to clear these, it’s going to cause a problem.
Now, to me, that is—I mean, I wouldn’t even have to know that the child has liver issues. Just injecting them with all of those different ingredients to me would be over-toxing the whole baby, the whole system anyway. But you know this reminded me of a story. I had a repair man at my house and of course if anybody comes and talks to me I’m going to start talking about vaccinations. And during our conversation I told him what I did, that I helped inform people, informed consent. And he got really silent and he told me that it was over 32-ish years ago now that their infant son died of vaccinations after early first year of life. And this whole entire time for over 30 years they were being gaslit because they thought it was the vaccines, but the entire medical community was like, “No, it’s not the vaccines. The vaccines don’t.”
And I just remember and it was a very somber moment because he was like he was going to go tell his wife that they were right this whole time, you know? I mean, it was just like that. Just think about that. Over 30 years before somebody actually confirms that it really was possible that your child died from the vaccinations and that you know you should always go with your mommy gut. But that’s very hard.
So with all of this data that we have and it’s now getting out there, what are some of the solutions to fixing the vaccination schedule that we’ve got now? I do know that they have reduced the number of vaccines but is there like genetic testing that we can do for these children? How do we get the ingredients out? What are some next steps?
Nic Hulscher: Yeah, so the next steps is to eliminate all extremely early timed vaccination. So less than two years old, they shouldn’t be getting anything. And that would be the best way to prevent any sudden infant death syndrome cases. Other countries have done that. I believe Japan’s done that already. And so, you know, we haven’t gotten there yet.
But what we did do was we shrunk the number of doses up to age 18 from over 80. We shrunk it down by about 50 doses. So, now it’s about 30 doses still. And a lot of them—
Cathy Meehan: Too many. —but we’re on our way.
Nic Hulscher: Still too many. And many of the core ones remaining are still very dangerous, including MMR. In fact, we have a study we’re working on now that’s very worrisome for the MMR vaccine. So, you know—
Cathy Meehan: Okay.
Nic Hulscher: —yeah, I’ll just say that that’s going to come out soon.
Cathy Meehan: We also have Vaxxed, which was the documentary that came out in like 2016, and that was about the CDC whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson who said that the CDC destroyed the data showing that autism was increased in African-American boys based on the MMR vaccine. So I’m glad to see that somebody’s going to look into that again and really, you know, bring the science back to the table.
Nic Hulscher: Yes. Be a good one. Yes, definitely. Well, it’s not autism we’re looking at for this one. It’s actually deaths. It’s actually deaths with the MMR. Yeah. Wow. So, it’s very serious. You know, it ties in with sudden infant death syndrome and it appears it’s much more severe than measles, mumps, and rubella infections themselves. The MMR vaccine is more dangerous and we will be proving that shortly. So, that’s that.
But yeah, and then so they eliminated the COVID shot from the universal recommended schedule. They removed the flu shot. They removed the hepatitis shot. They removed RSV. They removed—there’s a few others. They removed the meningococcal one. And that’s about it. But so the rest remain and yeah, so what needs to change now is that’s obviously a huge step.
But you know doctors, they can still give them all the vaccines and most of the doctors are still ideologically compromised by vaccinology and so unfortunately they will still administer all these anyways including the COVID shot for six-month-olds. They can still do that. And so lots of things need to happen. But yeah, we got to really, you know, they got to issue guidance now like do not vaccinate this small developing child with anything until they’re at least 2 years old.
You know, we would see a drastic drop in not only autism, but all these other things. But even infants vaccinated at two years old, you know, up until six years old, that appears to also be able to induce neurodevelopmental disorders. So honestly, when they don’t get anything at all for all of their childhood, all the studies show that they’re going to be far healthier. So that’s up to you.
Do you want them to be healthier or do you want to take the risk with, you know, these mild infections? Many of which are eliminated now. So, you know, it’s that should be up to the parent. There should be no mandates at all. They should be able to go to school unvaccinated and if all of that is done we’ll be much healthier.
Cathy Meehan: No, I agree. I mean we have our own little Meehan study because we had five vaccinated children who had eczema, pneumonia, uh oh my gosh, it was horrible all the things, the gut issues. My daughter Macy didn’t speak until after she was three years old. I mean all these things that the pediatrician said, “Oh, those are normal, right?” Well, they weren’t normal. They were common, but they were not normal.
And then now I have seven unvaccinated grandchildren. And you know what? They don’t go to the pediatrician. We don’t have ear infections. We don’t have pneumonia. We don’t have eczema. We don’t have any of those issues. And it’s just really, you know, if we can just teach people to support our immune system and, you know, I just pray that we continue on this path of eliminating vaccinations if that’s what it takes. That would be perfectly fine. And what do you say to the pediatricians that are ignoring all of the science that you guys are now bringing to the table? What’s your message for them?
Nic Hulscher: Yeah, I would say that they are contributing to the chronic disease epidemic and in fact they are one of the sole drivers of the chronic disease epidemic particularly all those pediatricians out there injecting all these six-month-old babies with seven doses at once. They are committing very terrible acts and putting these children at unnecessary risk of over 20 different chronic diseases including death and cancer.
And we recently demonstrated that in a reanalysis of the Henry Ford study—that large, very large vaccinated versus unvaccinated study—where yeah they are literally just pumping up the risk, over 1,200% more risk of neurodevelopmental disorders and it’s a travesty and but they don’t see that. I don’t know why they don’t see that. Probably because they’ve already given so many doses to so many babies they cannot psychologically reverse their decision there. They’re being too arrogant or perhaps they’ll feel too bad in their mind of what they may have done.
But you know that’s why we have to accept people from the other side to kind of, you know, with open arms if they want to change their mind, admit they’re wrong and we can make kids healthy again, we can stop this madness. But you know as long as we still have physicians just claiming it’s all conspiracy and not real, we’re going to stay in this situation where over 40% of kids have a chronic disease.
Cathy Meehan: Right! Well, you know, I can’t help but look at the financial bias that these pediatricians have because think about it, the amount of their revenue that comes in from vaccinations and appointments and the administration of the vaccinations. And not only that, but if you are making the vaccinated less healthy, then that means you’re going to actually have repeat customers. And so you are actually just feeding your practice with sick children.
And if number one, when you cut the vaccinations from over 80 to 30 and you imagine that’s cut, if they follow that, even if they follow that, you have reduced their revenue that’s generated by that many vaccinations that they are now not doing. And pediatricians are not going to be able to be profitable and they’re going to be closing their practices. I mean, there’s a huge financial bias into why, you know, their eyes are closed. They’re not even going to look at some of the data that you guys are actually producing. So, I think that’s very sad. We just have to pray that their eyes are opened and they’re willing to accept that and, you know, refocus their practice and try to keep kids healthy. We’ll have to do that.
Nic Hulscher: Definitely, definitely.
Cathy Meehan: Nic, I appreciate you coming on and helping educate our audience. And if they want to follow you or find out more information, what’s the key place for them to go?
Nic Hulscher: Yes, you can follow me first and foremost if you want to get all the long form articles on thefocalpoints.com. That’s our newsletter. You know, we put out new breaking news and all the new studies every day. It’s myself, Dr. Peter McCullough and John Leake on there. So, definitely thefocalpoints.com as well as my personal X account at NicHulscher where you will find post there daily, three, four times a day and all the breaking studies that come out. And if you don’t have X, you can follow me on Facebook. I’m posting there as well.
Cathy Meehan: That sounds great, Nic. I appreciate you so much. And for our audience, if you found this information to be helpful or you know someone that needs to hear about this information, please recommend the Meehan Mission Podcast. Until then, we want to promote faith, science, health, and truth. And we’ll see you again at the next episode. Thanks.